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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think in terms of the church the term "conservative" does not necessarily align with the political understanding. The largest shift in the church is demographic. White Europeans are loosing power rapidly in the catholic church. Subsequently the catholic church will align less and less with "Western" conservatives, and their imperialist understanding of geopolitics.

I expect to see much more opposition of "christian conservative" politicians in Europe towards the catholic church.
Ironically just yesterday the president of the German federal parliament of the "christian conservative" CDU told the Churches to shut up about politics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It is not ironic, half of Germans are protestants.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Nope. Half of Germans (47%) don't have a confession. 21% of Germans are protestants.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

She is describing herself as catholic though and even studied catholic theology.Her attack was directed at all churches, not just the catholic church.

More specifically she said "the churches shouldn't be another NGO" and then gave examples as to what they shouldn't talk about. So the idea is already that "NGO"s are something bad and civil society voicing political stances is bad. But then religious institutions commenting on how politics are in violation of the values the religion teaches, seems to be particularly disdained. This is also historically worrisome as the churches in the GDR used to be hailed for taking a stance against the regime and there is a lot of stories, how the churches in the third Reich would have taken stance, although i am not sure if the ratio of opposition/silence/collaboration is accurately represented in those stories.