▲ 532 ▼ Facebook Pushes Its Llama 4 AI Model to the Right, Wants to Present “Both Sides” (www.404media.co) submitted 2 years ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 135 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (18 children) So DeepSeek it is then. permalink fedilink source hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 9 points 2 years ago (17 children) Swapping one shit for another isn’t a solution. Go use a fine-tuned model free from corpo and state filth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (3 children) At least it's open source and you can run it locally, and it's more energy efficient. Give credit where credit is due. A truly independent AI group could simply fork and review it. And contrary to fascist talking points not all Chinese Researchers bow to the CCP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) You can run Llama models for free locally, pretty much every AI player release stuff out there for everyone to use for free. It’s surprisingly “open” like that. And you cannot run the real R1, that still requires a huge investment. It can run reduced quants, barely any different to the other current public offerings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It seems you can run the full R1 on a 96GB ram gaming rig even without GPU. I have little practical experience because of my old PC but it seems both improvements to efficiency to run locally (at least for a group of people) and research about bias or poisoning is being done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago BRB gotta buy another 64gig RAM kit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pirata@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Go use a fine-tuned model free from corpo How does it get fine-tuned in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] shani66@ani.social 3 points 2 years ago (7 children) Or just... Don't use an ai? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) "There are some bad things on the internet" "Just... Don't use the internet?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shani66@ani.social 2 points 2 years ago The Internet isn't universally bad permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 2 years ago (4 children) Nah, it’s a useful tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) For fucking WHAT? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Design, coding, writing, general queries are mostly what I use it for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ai masters cooking too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yes, I use it to generate my glue sandwich recipes daily. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Are you suggesting that people on the left should abandon all these new powerful technologies to the right. We're in a capitalist society. You're suggesting "fuck it" and leave only right leaning consumers for these powerful new products. What the hell. It's getting too be so hard to be on the left. Some of the most ineffective strategies on the planet. It looks like it's a doomed political group. There's no forethought. This suggestion was just as bad as people saying don't use AI We have to use it and we have to adopt it. Stop giving up powerful tools, technology and space to the right. I'm getting to be so done with the left if they just continue to shit the fucking bed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? I’m suggesting you run these things locally instead of through some corporations servers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago I think they're talking about the suggestion to not use DeepSeek because China. And I think most here are assuming self-hosting LLMs. I am. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 9 points 2 years ago (17 children) Swapping one shit for another isn’t a solution. Go use a fine-tuned model free from corpo and state filth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (3 children) At least it's open source and you can run it locally, and it's more energy efficient. Give credit where credit is due. A truly independent AI group could simply fork and review it. And contrary to fascist talking points not all Chinese Researchers bow to the CCP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) You can run Llama models for free locally, pretty much every AI player release stuff out there for everyone to use for free. It’s surprisingly “open” like that. And you cannot run the real R1, that still requires a huge investment. It can run reduced quants, barely any different to the other current public offerings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It seems you can run the full R1 on a 96GB ram gaming rig even without GPU. I have little practical experience because of my old PC but it seems both improvements to efficiency to run locally (at least for a group of people) and research about bias or poisoning is being done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago BRB gotta buy another 64gig RAM kit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pirata@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Go use a fine-tuned model free from corpo How does it get fine-tuned in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] shani66@ani.social 3 points 2 years ago (7 children) Or just... Don't use an ai? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) "There are some bad things on the internet" "Just... Don't use the internet?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shani66@ani.social 2 points 2 years ago The Internet isn't universally bad permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 2 years ago (4 children) Nah, it’s a useful tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) For fucking WHAT? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Design, coding, writing, general queries are mostly what I use it for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ai masters cooking too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yes, I use it to generate my glue sandwich recipes daily. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Are you suggesting that people on the left should abandon all these new powerful technologies to the right. We're in a capitalist society. You're suggesting "fuck it" and leave only right leaning consumers for these powerful new products. What the hell. It's getting too be so hard to be on the left. Some of the most ineffective strategies on the planet. It looks like it's a doomed political group. There's no forethought. This suggestion was just as bad as people saying don't use AI We have to use it and we have to adopt it. Stop giving up powerful tools, technology and space to the right. I'm getting to be so done with the left if they just continue to shit the fucking bed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? I’m suggesting you run these things locally instead of through some corporations servers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago I think they're talking about the suggestion to not use DeepSeek because China. And I think most here are assuming self-hosting LLMs. I am. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (3 children) At least it's open source and you can run it locally, and it's more energy efficient. Give credit where credit is due. A truly independent AI group could simply fork and review it. And contrary to fascist talking points not all Chinese Researchers bow to the CCP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) You can run Llama models for free locally, pretty much every AI player release stuff out there for everyone to use for free. It’s surprisingly “open” like that. And you cannot run the real R1, that still requires a huge investment. It can run reduced quants, barely any different to the other current public offerings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It seems you can run the full R1 on a 96GB ram gaming rig even without GPU. I have little practical experience because of my old PC but it seems both improvements to efficiency to run locally (at least for a group of people) and research about bias or poisoning is being done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago BRB gotta buy another 64gig RAM kit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) You can run Llama models for free locally, pretty much every AI player release stuff out there for everyone to use for free. It’s surprisingly “open” like that. And you cannot run the real R1, that still requires a huge investment. It can run reduced quants, barely any different to the other current public offerings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It seems you can run the full R1 on a 96GB ram gaming rig even without GPU. I have little practical experience because of my old PC but it seems both improvements to efficiency to run locally (at least for a group of people) and research about bias or poisoning is being done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago BRB gotta buy another 64gig RAM kit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It seems you can run the full R1 on a 96GB ram gaming rig even without GPU. I have little practical experience because of my old PC but it seems both improvements to efficiency to run locally (at least for a group of people) and research about bias or poisoning is being done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago BRB gotta buy another 64gig RAM kit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago BRB gotta buy another 64gig RAM kit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Go use a fine-tuned model free from corpo How does it get fine-tuned in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shani66@ani.social 3 points 2 years ago (7 children) Or just... Don't use an ai? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) "There are some bad things on the internet" "Just... Don't use the internet?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shani66@ani.social 2 points 2 years ago The Internet isn't universally bad permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 2 years ago (4 children) Nah, it’s a useful tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) For fucking WHAT? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Design, coding, writing, general queries are mostly what I use it for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ai masters cooking too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yes, I use it to generate my glue sandwich recipes daily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) "There are some bad things on the internet" "Just... Don't use the internet?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shani66@ani.social 2 points 2 years ago The Internet isn't universally bad permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shani66@ani.social 2 points 2 years ago The Internet isn't universally bad permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 2 years ago (4 children) Nah, it’s a useful tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) For fucking WHAT? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Design, coding, writing, general queries are mostly what I use it for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ai masters cooking too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yes, I use it to generate my glue sandwich recipes daily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) For fucking WHAT? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Design, coding, writing, general queries are mostly what I use it for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ai masters cooking too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yes, I use it to generate my glue sandwich recipes daily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Design, coding, writing, general queries are mostly what I use it for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ai masters cooking too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yes, I use it to generate my glue sandwich recipes daily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ai masters cooking too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yes, I use it to generate my glue sandwich recipes daily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yes, I use it to generate my glue sandwich recipes daily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Are you suggesting that people on the left should abandon all these new powerful technologies to the right. We're in a capitalist society. You're suggesting "fuck it" and leave only right leaning consumers for these powerful new products. What the hell. It's getting too be so hard to be on the left. Some of the most ineffective strategies on the planet. It looks like it's a doomed political group. There's no forethought. This suggestion was just as bad as people saying don't use AI We have to use it and we have to adopt it. Stop giving up powerful tools, technology and space to the right. I'm getting to be so done with the left if they just continue to shit the fucking bed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? I’m suggesting you run these things locally instead of through some corporations servers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago I think they're talking about the suggestion to not use DeepSeek because China. And I think most here are assuming self-hosting LLMs. I am. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? I’m suggesting you run these things locally instead of through some corporations servers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago I think they're talking about the suggestion to not use DeepSeek because China. And I think most here are assuming self-hosting LLMs. I am. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago I think they're talking about the suggestion to not use DeepSeek because China. And I think most here are assuming self-hosting LLMs. I am. permalink fedilink source parent