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China vastly overestimated the potency of the empire (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 1 year ago by [M] to c/funny@lemmygrad.ml
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[–] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

Russia during the cold war? The USSR wasn't just Russia(todays Russian Federation was the Russian RSFR back then, one member republic of the USSR, lul. And in 22, the US assumed Russia would to the same as the US always does: destroy civlian infrastructure asap, kill as many people as possible("Shock and awe doctrine"). Instead Russia prioritized forcing peacetalks over mass murder or taking territory.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Calm down, obviously I meant the Soviet Union for the Cold War bit. I could draw Gorbachev's head splotch birthmark from memory. And the US chronically overestimated the Soviet Union's capacity to both wage war and leverage economic influence. It wasn't until Soviet MP Boris Yeltsin had a real time freakout in a Texas grocery store in 1989 that both sides had the veil lifted.

    A large part of the overestimation is that the spies and analysts both took the most conservative stance possible, leaving little room for doing anything that wasn't just pumping up the military industrial complex.

    Russia's "3-5 day takeover of Kiev" was 100% within the range of expected possibility at the time, and the quick exposure of Russia's relative paper tiger advance was the result of endemic corruption.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Russia’s “3-5 day takeover of Kiev” was 100% within the range of expected possibility at the time, and the quick exposure of Russia’s relative paper tiger advance was the result of endemic corruption.

    Almost, the initial troops sent into the SMO were not enough to take over Kiev, hence why I wrote "force peace talks". Because that is literally what they did, at no point was there an attempt to storm Kiev.

    And negotiations did happen and were on their way towards a positive conclusion for Russia if not for the intervention of the west via Boris Johnson. There were quite a few logistical fuckups which took time fixing, but they came to bear after plan A (quick show of force and then negotiate peace) failed, not before.

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