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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 141 points 1 year ago (1 child) None of the 23 was a millionaire. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Aux@feddit.uk -119 points 1 year ago* (9 children) Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth. Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k, so your parents will pay it 100%. But here's a trick, wealth estimations will be done by the government on an annual basis and will change based on who's in charge. One year you might have 1m wealth and next year you might have 2m out of thin air. Because wealth is not money, it's an imaginary number. P.S. And it's more like your parents don't speak to you, because you are a 13yo kid in an adult body. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (2 children) What the fuck was that last sentence? Why the fuck would you assume about someone you never met, that their parents cut them off? Thats some mean-spirited, personal shit you got going on. Like a bitch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Plot twist, it's the parents. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago I got to the end of my dumbass comment and was reminded that this was why no one talks to me, so I felt the compulsion to lash out in anger at the smallest possible display of empathy permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth Yes, however no one is specifically calling on land owners to be taxed. Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k, so your parents will pay it 100%. Also wrong, the common consensus in the U.S. is that you should be taxed if you make over 400k a year. Make over 400k, anyone paying attention recognizes how this is just going to be circumvented by the current tax loopholes already in place. But here's a trick, wealth estimations will be done by the government on an annual basis and will change based on who's in charge. One year you might have 1m wealth and next year you might have 2m out of thin air. Please name a single time that the U.S. treasury has gone 'actually the dollar is worth double what it's worth' . Please, I would like you to point to that happening. And if you're referring to markets fluctuating as a result of a new presidency, holy shit I'm not explaining how that has nothing to do with the government 'deciding' the value of a currency. P.S. : you come off like an asshole, an asshole that barely knows what they're talking about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Nobody asked me but I am specifically calling for a Land Value Tax. Land values are already part of state-level property tax assessments, which are relatively stable and don't double over a year. We already tax wealth a little bit and it works great. We should do it more! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think that, without many things changing first, that would be a great way to cause a lot of people to lose their homes. Plenty of house poor folks who are just trying to keep their home/land. They would need to be considered too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Land Value Tax, not a parcel tax. Most of the revenue would come from cities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth. Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k, Guy who doesn't understand what a homestead exemption is permalink fedilink source parent [–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* Bro, go get a hug. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ignotum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago Ever heard of "market value"? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Very few are discussing a wealth tax, and when they do, it’s usually on net worth over 10mil. The 500k is annual income, which you don’t magically generate from owning a few houses. And yeah, people making that much annually should be paying a higher percentage tax compared to a public school teacher or barber, etc, but due to corruption and lack of regulation they don’t always do so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CMonster@discuss.online 1 point 1 year ago Who are these invisible people? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Aux@feddit.uk -119 points 1 year ago* (9 children) Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth. Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k, so your parents will pay it 100%. But here's a trick, wealth estimations will be done by the government on an annual basis and will change based on who's in charge. One year you might have 1m wealth and next year you might have 2m out of thin air. Because wealth is not money, it's an imaginary number. P.S. And it's more like your parents don't speak to you, because you are a 13yo kid in an adult body. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (2 children) What the fuck was that last sentence? Why the fuck would you assume about someone you never met, that their parents cut them off? Thats some mean-spirited, personal shit you got going on. Like a bitch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Plot twist, it's the parents. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago I got to the end of my dumbass comment and was reminded that this was why no one talks to me, so I felt the compulsion to lash out in anger at the smallest possible display of empathy permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth Yes, however no one is specifically calling on land owners to be taxed. Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k, so your parents will pay it 100%. Also wrong, the common consensus in the U.S. is that you should be taxed if you make over 400k a year. Make over 400k, anyone paying attention recognizes how this is just going to be circumvented by the current tax loopholes already in place. But here's a trick, wealth estimations will be done by the government on an annual basis and will change based on who's in charge. One year you might have 1m wealth and next year you might have 2m out of thin air. Please name a single time that the U.S. treasury has gone 'actually the dollar is worth double what it's worth' . Please, I would like you to point to that happening. And if you're referring to markets fluctuating as a result of a new presidency, holy shit I'm not explaining how that has nothing to do with the government 'deciding' the value of a currency. P.S. : you come off like an asshole, an asshole that barely knows what they're talking about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Nobody asked me but I am specifically calling for a Land Value Tax. Land values are already part of state-level property tax assessments, which are relatively stable and don't double over a year. We already tax wealth a little bit and it works great. We should do it more! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think that, without many things changing first, that would be a great way to cause a lot of people to lose their homes. Plenty of house poor folks who are just trying to keep their home/land. They would need to be considered too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Land Value Tax, not a parcel tax. Most of the revenue would come from cities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth. Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k, Guy who doesn't understand what a homestead exemption is permalink fedilink source parent [–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* Bro, go get a hug. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ignotum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago Ever heard of "market value"? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Very few are discussing a wealth tax, and when they do, it’s usually on net worth over 10mil. The 500k is annual income, which you don’t magically generate from owning a few houses. And yeah, people making that much annually should be paying a higher percentage tax compared to a public school teacher or barber, etc, but due to corruption and lack of regulation they don’t always do so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CMonster@discuss.online 1 point 1 year ago Who are these invisible people? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Aux@feddit.uk -119 points 1 year ago* (9 children) Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth. Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k, so your parents will pay it 100%. But here's a trick, wealth estimations will be done by the government on an annual basis and will change based on who's in charge. One year you might have 1m wealth and next year you might have 2m out of thin air. Because wealth is not money, it's an imaginary number. P.S. And it's more like your parents don't speak to you, because you are a 13yo kid in an adult body. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (2 children) What the fuck was that last sentence? Why the fuck would you assume about someone you never met, that their parents cut them off? Thats some mean-spirited, personal shit you got going on. Like a bitch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Plot twist, it's the parents. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago I got to the end of my dumbass comment and was reminded that this was why no one talks to me, so I felt the compulsion to lash out in anger at the smallest possible display of empathy permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth Yes, however no one is specifically calling on land owners to be taxed. Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k, so your parents will pay it 100%. Also wrong, the common consensus in the U.S. is that you should be taxed if you make over 400k a year. Make over 400k, anyone paying attention recognizes how this is just going to be circumvented by the current tax loopholes already in place. But here's a trick, wealth estimations will be done by the government on an annual basis and will change based on who's in charge. One year you might have 1m wealth and next year you might have 2m out of thin air. Please name a single time that the U.S. treasury has gone 'actually the dollar is worth double what it's worth' . Please, I would like you to point to that happening. And if you're referring to markets fluctuating as a result of a new presidency, holy shit I'm not explaining how that has nothing to do with the government 'deciding' the value of a currency. P.S. : you come off like an asshole, an asshole that barely knows what they're talking about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Nobody asked me but I am specifically calling for a Land Value Tax. Land values are already part of state-level property tax assessments, which are relatively stable and don't double over a year. We already tax wealth a little bit and it works great. We should do it more! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think that, without many things changing first, that would be a great way to cause a lot of people to lose their homes. Plenty of house poor folks who are just trying to keep their home/land. They would need to be considered too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Land Value Tax, not a parcel tax. Most of the revenue would come from cities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth. Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k, Guy who doesn't understand what a homestead exemption is permalink fedilink source parent [–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* Bro, go get a hug. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ignotum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago Ever heard of "market value"? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Very few are discussing a wealth tax, and when they do, it’s usually on net worth over 10mil. The 500k is annual income, which you don’t magically generate from owning a few houses. And yeah, people making that much annually should be paying a higher percentage tax compared to a public school teacher or barber, etc, but due to corruption and lack of regulation they don’t always do so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CMonster@discuss.online 1 point 1 year ago Who are these invisible people? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (2 children) What the fuck was that last sentence? Why the fuck would you assume about someone you never met, that their parents cut them off? Thats some mean-spirited, personal shit you got going on. Like a bitch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Plot twist, it's the parents. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Plot twist, it's the parents. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago I got to the end of my dumbass comment and was reminded that this was why no one talks to me, so I felt the compulsion to lash out in anger at the smallest possible display of empathy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth Yes, however no one is specifically calling on land owners to be taxed. Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k, so your parents will pay it 100%. Also wrong, the common consensus in the U.S. is that you should be taxed if you make over 400k a year. Make over 400k, anyone paying attention recognizes how this is just going to be circumvented by the current tax loopholes already in place. But here's a trick, wealth estimations will be done by the government on an annual basis and will change based on who's in charge. One year you might have 1m wealth and next year you might have 2m out of thin air. Please name a single time that the U.S. treasury has gone 'actually the dollar is worth double what it's worth' . Please, I would like you to point to that happening. And if you're referring to markets fluctuating as a result of a new presidency, holy shit I'm not explaining how that has nothing to do with the government 'deciding' the value of a currency. P.S. : you come off like an asshole, an asshole that barely knows what they're talking about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Nobody asked me but I am specifically calling for a Land Value Tax. Land values are already part of state-level property tax assessments, which are relatively stable and don't double over a year. We already tax wealth a little bit and it works great. We should do it more! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think that, without many things changing first, that would be a great way to cause a lot of people to lose their homes. Plenty of house poor folks who are just trying to keep their home/land. They would need to be considered too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Land Value Tax, not a parcel tax. Most of the revenue would come from cities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Nobody asked me but I am specifically calling for a Land Value Tax. Land values are already part of state-level property tax assessments, which are relatively stable and don't double over a year. We already tax wealth a little bit and it works great. We should do it more! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think that, without many things changing first, that would be a great way to cause a lot of people to lose their homes. Plenty of house poor folks who are just trying to keep their home/land. They would need to be considered too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Land Value Tax, not a parcel tax. Most of the revenue would come from cities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think that, without many things changing first, that would be a great way to cause a lot of people to lose their homes. Plenty of house poor folks who are just trying to keep their home/land. They would need to be considered too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Land Value Tax, not a parcel tax. Most of the revenue would come from cities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Land Value Tax, not a parcel tax. Most of the revenue would come from cities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth. Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k, Guy who doesn't understand what a homestead exemption is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* Bro, go get a hug. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago Ever heard of "market value"? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Very few are discussing a wealth tax, and when they do, it’s usually on net worth over 10mil. The 500k is annual income, which you don’t magically generate from owning a few houses. And yeah, people making that much annually should be paying a higher percentage tax compared to a public school teacher or barber, etc, but due to corruption and lack of regulation they don’t always do so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CMonster@discuss.online 1 point 1 year ago Who are these invisible people? permalink fedilink source parent