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Penn Jillette is No Longer A Libertarian (lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz)
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Seriously abridged version of this alongside the clown makeup removal meme In 2008, Jillette stated that there is not enough information to make an informed decision on global warming, that his gut told him it was not real, but his mind said that he cannot prove it.[48] As of 2014, he has changed his position and now believes that climate change is occurring.[49] He stated in 2008 that he "always" votes Libertarian,[47] and endorsed Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson for president in 2012[50][51][52] and 2016.[53] However, he participated in vote swapping in 2016 by voting for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in the swing state of Nevada, in exchange for "10 or 11" of his friends promising to vote for Johnson in blue states like California and New York.[54] In 2020, Jillette distanced himself from aspects of libertarianism, particularly surrounding COVID-19. In an interview with Big Think, he stated, "[A] lot of the illusions that I held dear, rugged individualism, individual freedoms, are coming back to bite us in the ass." He went on to elaborate, "[I]t seems like getting rid of the gatekeepers gave us Trump as president, and in the same breath, in the same wind, gave us not wearing masks, and maybe gave us a huge unpleasant amount of overt racism."[55]
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[–] 3 points 2 years ago (8 children)

and enjoy the company of sex workers consensually within my poly marriage to my trans wife.

Are you against the government codifying protections for these people due to the undeniable danger that they face?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Nope, but that being said I don't believe in the government being competent enough to do so in the first place, especially when there's always going to be Republicans eager to revoke those protections.

    That being said, I definitely encourage trans folks to arm themselves because let's face it, the government will not protect them in any way under the Trump administration. The second amendment applies to all Americans and sadly there's a lot of bigots around nowadays who are more than happy to commit a hate crime.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (6 children)

    Nope, but that being said I don’t believe in the government being competent enough to do so in the first place,

    Then I don't think you're a libertarian. If you were, you would not believe that this is even a possibility. My understanding is that it's a core belief that the government, by definition, cannot be competent enough to do things like that.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Then I don’t think you’re a libertarian.

    LMAO don't mansplain Libertarianism to me.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    Is it mansplaining to point out that you don't agree with a core principle of your claimed ideology? Are you really that sensitive to the most benign criticism of what you supposedly believe?

    OK then. And here I thought you were up for an honest conversation. My mistake.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Is it mansplaining to point out that you don’t agree with a core principle of your claimed ideology?

    It is definitely mansplaining when you tell me that I don't actually understand what libertarianism is, I'm not actually a libertarian even if I say I am, and that I need a big, strong man like you to explain all this to silly little old me.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sounds like you just don't like having your beliefs challenged.

    Good luck with... life I guess.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Wrong. I simply don't like having someone who doesn't even know me try to correct me about what my own personal beliefs are. It's rude.

    That's like me telling you, "Well, you must obviously be a Mormon, since you believe murder is wrong and Mormons believe that too. I don't care if you say you aren't an Mormon. You actually are a Mormon, and the only reason you'd deny being a Mormon is because you just don't like having your beliefs challenged."

    See how condescending that sounds? If you want to "challenge my beliefs", be polite while doing so.

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