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[–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why'd you give money to a terf?

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  • [+] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [+] -15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    nah, they asked a question. it's a loaded question for sure, but they asked a simple question. stop enabling.

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    stop enabling terfs. stop enabling punching down. stop enabling fascism. stop enabling ignorance.

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  • [+] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    ah yes, Gamers the MOST oppressed class of people.

    bad faith argument that any sane person would be embarrassed to have uttered.

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  • [+] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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    rights are being degraded for trans and women and fucking immigrants all around you but THEY CAME FOR THE GAMERS so you just HAD to speak up.

    if you actively choose to enable intolerant actions, you no longer deserve to be tolerated by civil society. there is no paradox here.

    civil society isn't protected by people like you, which is what you clearly fancy yourself doing right now.

    civil society is protected from people like you.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    So are you going to make a bad faith argument that Microsoft, Google, Apple, Sony, Nintendo, Steam or who is a good company to buy platforms or games from? Note, most games brought to Linux happen because much of it was funded from sales off those platforms as well. So in todays world if you want Linux games, you have to hope people keep buying them on those major platforms.

    Or are you just going to take the low road of describing yourself as better than everyone else because you only play niche unprofitable games that most people will never hear of and therefor most of society who doesnt have large amounts of time to invest in games likely won't ever see.

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  • [+] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This arguments won't go anywhere, except a flame war.

    So please, both of you, kindly accept the disagreement, and move on.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    shows up 5 hrs late to do literally nothing of value. actively harms any ability to even remotely learn from this because i can't read what i wrote even in my own history.

    christ no wonder this site is dead as a fucking doornail.

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  • [–] [M] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I have a life, I can't just be 24/7 checking new reports, and I don't know any mean to get notified when one is opened.

    As for the value of my action, if you feel like my action isn't legitimate, you can either contact the other mods or the Admins.

    We do not wish to have trolls and toxic people in our community, so if you cannot stop yourself from spreading your toxicity everywhere, then go elsewhere, this is not the only gaming community around.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    ah yes, the singular other mod that hasn't made a comment in 2 years???

    and how can any of them disagree with you? do any of you even have the ability to review the comments?

    If you can't handle calling out bigotry then you're on the side of the bigots. you stance enables the bigots. civilty can only exist when the bigots are dead.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    ah yes, the singular other mod that hasn't made a comment in 2 years???

    I was wondering if he was still here and sent him a message not long ago. Turn out he is, and just mostly lurks those days. Which means that I'm alone doing the moderation most of the time, but that also that you can still try. What do you have to loose? Time? Looking how much you posted on this thread you seem to have plenty of it, so why not try?

    and how can any of them disagree with you? do any of you even have the ability to review the comments?

    They do, and there were time we disagreed on some mod action. In such case we talk about it together, and try to reach a concensus. That's how some of our rules exception came to be.

    If you can't handle calling out bigotry then you're on the side of the bigots. you stance enables the bigots. civilty can only exist when the bigots are dead.

    Ah. The good old false dilemma fallacy. Either I'm with you or against you. Did you ever consider that others have their own way to fight those idiots without having to resort to screams, rage and oversimplification?
    This community was founded to provide a place were people can talk about games in a constructive way. If you wish to have a community of your own where you can do as you wish, be my guest, and go create it.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago*

    you're the kind of person that quietly watches as they come for everyone else because "im fighting in my own way".

    you're not fighting for anything but quiet on your shitty little board. there can be nothing constructive as long as nazi idealogy is permitted to dehumanize people.

    there is no nuance to fascism and nazis. "if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis."

    the intolerant can't be tolerated or they will destroy the tolerance that was worked so hard for.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Because I'm tired of being told what to be outraged about

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You're supposed to be able to figure it out yourself. People wouldn't have to tell you these things if you were smarter.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My trans friends purchased the game, too. One of them specifically because of the well-done trans character, they said "I want to support whoever wrote that character into the game"

    Almost like projects with 100s of people working on them are more complicated than "one person gets a tiny share of each purchase so it's completely bad"

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not OP but I bought it for my sister who is notoriously impossible to buy birthday presents for because she explicitly requested something for once, then I played it through Steam family sharing to deny at least one sale of the game.

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm suprised and a lil' confused why you would share this story in response. Respectfully, it feels like you're shifting blame. Like, okay, sure, It's your sister's birthdays fault you gave money to a terf.

    I mean, you do you but if the trans persecution isn't a deal breaker when it comes to something so basic as media choices. Then, whatever. Own it.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Totally valid criticism, I absolutely agree with you. Times are tough for trans folk and giving money to transphobes is not helping that.

    Looking back on it, I wouldn't buy it having seen how far off the deep end she has gone. I admit I dismissed her at the time as just a nutjob on Twitter but she's now proved to me that she is a bigot beyond reproach.

    I also find myself in a better educated position than I was at that time. I have more LGBTQ friends and family than ever and I'm challenging anti-trans behaviour in others when I spot it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It's less about giving money to the woman herself and more about how HP and JK Rowling are used as memetic weapons. Every release of a new property has seen a rush of transphobic actors invading trans spaces for years. Invoking the name of the author and showing solidarity in a lot of contexts is a not subtle way of showing support to the veiws expressed by the Terf ideology during a time when being trans is becoming criminalized in more places. The news isn't generally covering it well but Texas is passing laws where it is a criminal offense to misrepresent your birth sex at work or in public government spaces.

    "Oh but it's just money" isn't so much the problem. It's the cover this entire conversation about ethical consumption or the lack thereof in daily life is providing to people throwing up open flags of anti-trans bigotry in public and using that as a tool to band together to attack the community and send open messages that trans people are not welcome in ways that the average cis person will dismiss as just "they like kid wizards".

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Regarding your confusion and surprise, the person you replied to merely gave their reason why they bought it and supported a transphobe, and it was because this person's sister requested that game specifically.

    I know the question posed was mostly rhetorical in nature. But I'm not sure why you are questioning why someone is answering the question, and I'm not sure what kind of satisfactory answer you could get from anyone who had purchased the game (and supported a transphobe, yes, which I haven't).

    The rest of your comment is a legit response, but I'm only pushing back on the first sentence of your reply. Or even moving that sentence to the back of your comment to make it less charged. If someone's going to answer a loaded question, let them, but get to the point about how misguided they are with their justification before you question the answer. That would likely make for a more constructive discussion. Unless you think that these answers are unhelpful in the first place, that we're better off not hearing why people have done transphobic things with different intentions, and we should refuse to give them space to reflect, learn, then own up to their transgressions if they don't come right out of the gate to apologize. Then sure, ignore what I said.

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