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One of the men goes for her phone. The other grabs at her hands. Ozturk screams. Shock and fear ripple through her voice. Two masked women join them, tugging at her backpack, peeling the straps from her shoulders. “I’m going somewhere, I need to call someone,” she pleads. “We’re the police. Relax,” one of the men says in response.

They surround her. Then, one by one, they pull their neck gaiters up to cover their faces. “You don’t look like police,” a voice off screen says. “Why are you hiding your faces?” The questions continue, but the figures don’t respond. Instead, they cuff Ozturk, cross the street, and put her in an unmarked SUV. She is gone.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You have no illusions about the fact that you are defenseless?

We have guns. Lots of guns.

Everyone needs to arm themselves and train.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I suspect your government would love it if you started shooting. They'd declare martial law. Goodbye elections, hello police state.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They will do this either way.

There is no bargaining with these people. They will not not escalate from their side. By not escalating from your side you only encourage their escalation as they face no repercussions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

That's true actually - they are escalating pretty hard already.

As a long-term peacenik though, I hate the thought of gun battles on the streets. I wish you all the very best. I first visited the US in 1976 and have toured around a lot since then. My one single bad experience was Homeland Security when transiting through LAX. We're tourists not terrorists, jeez cool your jets! I can't imagine how bad ICE is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Your guns don't compare to the guns the government use. Nor do you have the numbers to resist even if equally armed. If the 1/3 of voters that didn't vote, actually voted for for Harris, you wouldn't be in this mess but there you are.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah well, ask the Afghans or Vietnamese. Turns out you don't need to have the same fire power to drag your opponent through the mud.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The Vietnamese had some of the greatest strategic minds in their history leading the fight against the Americans.

So far, it doesn't seem like there's a single leader for a resistance in the U.S., and certainly none as skilled in tactics.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Where do you expect the resistance leaders to come from?

From the state resistance leadership school, with the public resistance leadership grant? If you dont form a resistance you cannot create resistance leaders

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

The Afghans and Vietnamese had nothing to lose. Americans, no matter how much they complain online, have everything to lose.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean about numbers? The state and it's guards are always massively outnumbered by the people, it's just a question of organization.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

But how many people are willing to risk their life without immediate danger to themselves (yet)?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

and if we had a time machine we could fix all this. STFU. GUNS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I had a decent amount I got back from taxes that I intentionally spent. I'm mentally ill. I'm off my meds because I cant risk withdrawl from going back on them only to have RFK take them away again. I'll lose my job. It doesnt pay enough for me to get by anyway. If I kept that money, I know I would have bought that gun. And I would have used it on myself.

I'm still not sure I did the right thing spending myself into this hole to keep a gun away. I know using it on my oppressors wouldnt likely succeed. I'm more likely to use it on myself.

I still dont know if it was the right thing to do to not buy the gun.