▲ 1385 ▼ Penn Jillette is No Longer A Libertarian (lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz) submitted 1 year ago by BigHeadMode@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 396 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 111 points 1 year ago* (4 children) As a big fan of P&T, this is a major win. Not to mention the veganism which is also closely related to rejecting fascism. https://vegnews.com/magician-penn-jillette-goes-vegan-for-the-animals (Full disclosure: I saw an interview where Penn says he went vegan for health and weight loss. But maybe he's evolved to animal liberation as well.) permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children) Not to mention the veganism which is also closely related to rejecting fascism. I mean... Technically a vegan did shoot hitler in the head that lead to the end of WW2... But that's a weird way to say hitler was a vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hitler wasn’t a vegan. He ate eggs and dairy products, according to his doctor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) Near the end of his life, Adolf Hitler (1889–1945) followed a vegetarian diet. It is not clear when or why he adopted it, since some accounts of his dietary habits prior to the Second World War indicate that he consumed meat as late as 1937. In 1938, Hitler's doctors put him on a meat-free diet, and his public image as a vegetarian was fostered; from 1942, he self-identified as a vegetarian. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children) This does not contradict what I said? Vegetarians and vegans are not the same thing. Vegans do not eat eggs or dairy (or honey or any other product derived from animals). Vegetarians have no such restriction, they just don’t eat meat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago Can we just let them make what was clearly a joke and move on with our lives? permalink fedilink source parent [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* Do you have any idea what they meant by: Not to mention the veganism which is also closely related to rejecting fascism. Then? Because dietary restrictions is not an effective way to fight fascism. And I don't want to get in a pedantic argument about modern terms applied to 80 years ago. Although it seems that's what you really want to do permalink fedilink source parent [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Today’s Hitler only eats at McDonalds. permalink fedilink source parent [+] lemmus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] 3laws@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Vegetarian* FTFY permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) it's gives me hope to see this. i made a career change recently from one that's so utterly dominated by libertarians like this meme that it's costed me jobs and inflicted trauma upon my psyche. i've also been trying to drop the carnist behavior that i learned as a child; and also for health & weight loss goals; and learning that someone with a high profile that's familiar to me, has done it successfully is helpful; thanks for sharing this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Hey, you got this. Meatlessness is a difficult switch but once you get recipes and habits built up it gets easier. At this point meat doesn't smell like food to me and while there are things I miss, it's not like I worried it would be when I started permalink fedilink source parent [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Didn’t know he was vegan. Weren’t they both guests at the chefs table on Hell’s Kitchen recently? Do they make anything vegan on that show? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago IMO petrochemical textiles are a way bigger moral and existential problem than wool or even leather, so while there are many genuine concerns with the livestock industry I cannot support "full" veganism. We might get there eventually with biodegradable plastics but we aren't there now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children) Not to mention the veganism which is also closely related to rejecting fascism. I mean... Technically a vegan did shoot hitler in the head that lead to the end of WW2... But that's a weird way to say hitler was a vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hitler wasn’t a vegan. He ate eggs and dairy products, according to his doctor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) Near the end of his life, Adolf Hitler (1889–1945) followed a vegetarian diet. It is not clear when or why he adopted it, since some accounts of his dietary habits prior to the Second World War indicate that he consumed meat as late as 1937. In 1938, Hitler's doctors put him on a meat-free diet, and his public image as a vegetarian was fostered; from 1942, he self-identified as a vegetarian. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children) This does not contradict what I said? Vegetarians and vegans are not the same thing. Vegans do not eat eggs or dairy (or honey or any other product derived from animals). Vegetarians have no such restriction, they just don’t eat meat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago Can we just let them make what was clearly a joke and move on with our lives? permalink fedilink source parent [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* Do you have any idea what they meant by: Not to mention the veganism which is also closely related to rejecting fascism. Then? Because dietary restrictions is not an effective way to fight fascism. And I don't want to get in a pedantic argument about modern terms applied to 80 years ago. Although it seems that's what you really want to do permalink fedilink source parent [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Today’s Hitler only eats at McDonalds. permalink fedilink source parent [+] lemmus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] 3laws@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Vegetarian* FTFY permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hitler wasn’t a vegan. He ate eggs and dairy products, according to his doctor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) Near the end of his life, Adolf Hitler (1889–1945) followed a vegetarian diet. It is not clear when or why he adopted it, since some accounts of his dietary habits prior to the Second World War indicate that he consumed meat as late as 1937. In 1938, Hitler's doctors put him on a meat-free diet, and his public image as a vegetarian was fostered; from 1942, he self-identified as a vegetarian. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children) This does not contradict what I said? Vegetarians and vegans are not the same thing. Vegans do not eat eggs or dairy (or honey or any other product derived from animals). Vegetarians have no such restriction, they just don’t eat meat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago Can we just let them make what was clearly a joke and move on with our lives? permalink fedilink source parent [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* Do you have any idea what they meant by: Not to mention the veganism which is also closely related to rejecting fascism. Then? Because dietary restrictions is not an effective way to fight fascism. And I don't want to get in a pedantic argument about modern terms applied to 80 years ago. Although it seems that's what you really want to do permalink fedilink source parent [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Today’s Hitler only eats at McDonalds. permalink fedilink source parent [+] lemmus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) Near the end of his life, Adolf Hitler (1889–1945) followed a vegetarian diet. It is not clear when or why he adopted it, since some accounts of his dietary habits prior to the Second World War indicate that he consumed meat as late as 1937. In 1938, Hitler's doctors put him on a meat-free diet, and his public image as a vegetarian was fostered; from 1942, he self-identified as a vegetarian. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children) This does not contradict what I said? Vegetarians and vegans are not the same thing. Vegans do not eat eggs or dairy (or honey or any other product derived from animals). Vegetarians have no such restriction, they just don’t eat meat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago Can we just let them make what was clearly a joke and move on with our lives? permalink fedilink source parent [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* Do you have any idea what they meant by: Not to mention the veganism which is also closely related to rejecting fascism. Then? Because dietary restrictions is not an effective way to fight fascism. And I don't want to get in a pedantic argument about modern terms applied to 80 years ago. Although it seems that's what you really want to do permalink fedilink source parent [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Today’s Hitler only eats at McDonalds. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children) This does not contradict what I said? Vegetarians and vegans are not the same thing. Vegans do not eat eggs or dairy (or honey or any other product derived from animals). Vegetarians have no such restriction, they just don’t eat meat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago Can we just let them make what was clearly a joke and move on with our lives? permalink fedilink source parent [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* Do you have any idea what they meant by: Not to mention the veganism which is also closely related to rejecting fascism. Then? Because dietary restrictions is not an effective way to fight fascism. And I don't want to get in a pedantic argument about modern terms applied to 80 years ago. Although it seems that's what you really want to do permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago Can we just let them make what was clearly a joke and move on with our lives? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* Do you have any idea what they meant by: Not to mention the veganism which is also closely related to rejecting fascism. Then? Because dietary restrictions is not an effective way to fight fascism. And I don't want to get in a pedantic argument about modern terms applied to 80 years ago. Although it seems that's what you really want to do permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Today’s Hitler only eats at McDonalds. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) it's gives me hope to see this. i made a career change recently from one that's so utterly dominated by libertarians like this meme that it's costed me jobs and inflicted trauma upon my psyche. i've also been trying to drop the carnist behavior that i learned as a child; and also for health & weight loss goals; and learning that someone with a high profile that's familiar to me, has done it successfully is helpful; thanks for sharing this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Hey, you got this. Meatlessness is a difficult switch but once you get recipes and habits built up it gets easier. At this point meat doesn't smell like food to me and while there are things I miss, it's not like I worried it would be when I started permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Hey, you got this. Meatlessness is a difficult switch but once you get recipes and habits built up it gets easier. At this point meat doesn't smell like food to me and while there are things I miss, it's not like I worried it would be when I started permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Didn’t know he was vegan. Weren’t they both guests at the chefs table on Hell’s Kitchen recently? Do they make anything vegan on that show? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago IMO petrochemical textiles are a way bigger moral and existential problem than wool or even leather, so while there are many genuine concerns with the livestock industry I cannot support "full" veganism. We might get there eventually with biodegradable plastics but we aren't there now. permalink fedilink source parent