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[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Really? Seems like we had a peaceful transition of power just this year.

[-] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 89 points 11 months ago

We peacefully transitioned into a technocracy with a wanna-be dictator idiot at the helm.

As an exercise for anyone reading this who doesn't already know: How did Hitler got into a position of power? Look that up, don't use AI, actually check up on that yourself.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago

Technically the Nazis lost that election, but the Conservatives who won turned around and handed power to Hitler, all to prevent the Left from gaining power.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 73 points 11 months ago

Alien school: For todays class we will begin Earth history, please open your text book titled "Earth: All to Prevent the Left From Gaining Power." This book covers the vast majority of Earth history.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Unironically though, you can see the same pattern going all the way back to Rome.[Michal Parenti's The Assassination of Julius Caesar]

Something about the history of all hitherto existing society being the history of class struggles.

[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago

That's not how elections work here. There is not really a "winner" in elections unless someone gets an absolute majority, which is almost never. Parties form a coalition to have a majority together.

That's how it is nowadays, but I think the old system had coalitions too.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Just a dictionary thing, Technocracy != tech bro president:

Government by technical specialists.

A system of governance where people who are skilled or proficient govern in their respective areas of expertise. A type of meritocracy based on people's ability and knowledge in a given area.

When you call someone a technocrat, it means they're more interested in research and quality than political debate

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The US has purportedly been a technocracy for a few decades now. The second election of Trump will likely mark the end of the technocracy and the official start of something worse....kakistocracy, full blown oligarchy, kleptocracy, pick whatever word you want.

The administrative state -- the exact thing Elon and his doge goons are targeting -- is the home of the technocrats.

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[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

I would assume most monarchies transitioned just as peaceful. What does that prove?

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Every 4-8 years to all elected opponent?

[-] shani66@ani.social 8 points 11 months ago

I mean, term limits don't make a democracy and there have been elective monarchies.

[-] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 months ago

The Vatican is an elective absolute monarchy.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago

When do Catholics vote for the Pope?

[-] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

When the Conclave elects a new one.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago
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[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

Optical illusion. Plutocrats sharing power among themselves is not democracy, friend.

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[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

The only party willing to accept defeat and not cry foul until their cult riots lost. It will never happen the other way around are you'd have be to a deeply vastly empty head to not know that.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That makes one in a row now.

[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Degree of democracy has more to do with the size of the ruling coalition relative to the size of the pool of the interchangeables. When power is shared within a large ruling coalition, there tends to be a louder and more influential voice by the interchangeables, leading to more democracy and better living conditions for everyone, including those in the losing coalition. Autocracies on the ruling spectrum tend to have tiny ruling coalitions.

Source: my memory of reading The Dictator's Handbook by Bueno de Mesquita and Smith. Highly recommended reading.

If the ruling coalition of the US is much smaller than it appears to be, then yeah, it's at risk of losing its foothold as a democracy.

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago

That's not the only quality of a democracy.

[-] Doctor_Satan@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Democracy isn't defined solely by peaceful transfer of power. Our government is completely captured by monied interests. Public opinion has a near zero influence on policy.

[-] Amonverite@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

'Bloodless coup" comes to mind...

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

How many eligible voters abstained?

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