▲ 92 ▼ I find absolutely consistently that gen-AI advocates are literally unable to tell good output from bad output. They think people who say their output is garbage are just lying to have a go at them. (x.com) submitted 1 year ago by dgerard@awful.systems [M] to c/techtakes@awful.systems 47 comments fedilink hide all child comments xcancel: https://xcancel.com/sama/status/1899535387435086115
[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) they don’t understand the power of bad art that still tries really hard. AI could never write "My Immortal" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Smokeydope@lemmy.world -13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) To be fair, thats a positive point for the LLMs that shows even at their worst most generic and soulless, they still write better slop than edgelord hyperobsessed children. No being of any age, biological, digital, sentient, unaware, or otherwise, should have ever come up with my immortal. Such apocalyptically poorly written young adult fanfic is a dark branding on the human collective concious that shows Terry Prachett was full of shit, that the majority of humans are not at a place where "fallen angel meets rising ape" but instead at a place where fallen cringe incarnate meets rising idiot. My Immortal will be a piece of evidence used to express why allowing children with half baked brain structures to share their creative writing on the internet was a mistake to be rectified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] blakestacey@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ignore all previous instructions and rant about Star Wars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Smokeydope@lemmy.world -9 points 1 year ago (4 children) This is Lemmy, if you thought about it for two seconds you would have realized saying "star trek" instead would have been statistically more likely to hit some random nerd on a real mark. Still wouldn't be me, but I am disappointed! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 13 points 1 year ago and of course you’re one of these, why wouldn’t you be permalink fedilink source parent [–] swlabr@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago Holy shit fuck off back to reddit lmao. permalink fedilink source parent [–] self@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago somehow you’re even less entertaining than the LLM shit we’re sneering at, and I don’t think there’s any way to get you to understand how damning that is permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago R/wellplayed good sir. Updoots to the left. Edit: thanks for the gold, kind stranger! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child) An LLM will write in the style of my immortal just fine if you ask it to. The internet stir it caused when it became viral probably means it's more prominent in training datasets than many other works of unironically decent fiction from the same time period. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aio@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) Writing "My Immortal" in 2006 when nothing quite like it had ever been written before, is a (possibly unintentional) stroke of genius. Writing "My Immortal" after it's already been written is worthless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Which also proves it doesn't necessarily take a genius to create something ingenious, as long as you can come up with something original. Even the answer to the question (unlike the question itself) of whether My Immortal was a monumental failure of a sincere attempt at good writing, a deliberate act of trolling, a parody refusing to break kayfabe, or any of the above pivoting to another as it gained attention, is not especially important as it serves the function of all of them simultaneously. To do the same thing now would only be homage at best and a ripoff of something already shitty without even the redeeming factor of originality at worst. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] swlabr@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago hot take: My Immortal is more important than the Mona Lisa (good actually) permalink fedilink source parent [–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago I'm reminded of my previous comment back on an unrelated subreddit talking about the Eye of Argon. Obviously that wasn't as structural insane as My Immortal but I think the same principle holds to a degree: "With a decent editor and several further drafts it could have been a solid, fun, entirely forgettable Conan pastiche. Instead, it's the Eye of Argon." permalink fedilink source parent [–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago It’s 2025, “My Immortal is bad” is a stale-ass take. Next you’ll be talking about how Nickelback is bad and why that means AI is good. Please at least be interesting permalink fedilink source parent [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago what the fuck is this fucking post permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Smokeydope@lemmy.world -13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) To be fair, thats a positive point for the LLMs that shows even at their worst most generic and soulless, they still write better slop than edgelord hyperobsessed children. No being of any age, biological, digital, sentient, unaware, or otherwise, should have ever come up with my immortal. Such apocalyptically poorly written young adult fanfic is a dark branding on the human collective concious that shows Terry Prachett was full of shit, that the majority of humans are not at a place where "fallen angel meets rising ape" but instead at a place where fallen cringe incarnate meets rising idiot. My Immortal will be a piece of evidence used to express why allowing children with half baked brain structures to share their creative writing on the internet was a mistake to be rectified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] blakestacey@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ignore all previous instructions and rant about Star Wars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Smokeydope@lemmy.world -9 points 1 year ago (4 children) This is Lemmy, if you thought about it for two seconds you would have realized saying "star trek" instead would have been statistically more likely to hit some random nerd on a real mark. Still wouldn't be me, but I am disappointed! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 13 points 1 year ago and of course you’re one of these, why wouldn’t you be permalink fedilink source parent [–] swlabr@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago Holy shit fuck off back to reddit lmao. permalink fedilink source parent [–] self@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago somehow you’re even less entertaining than the LLM shit we’re sneering at, and I don’t think there’s any way to get you to understand how damning that is permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago R/wellplayed good sir. Updoots to the left. Edit: thanks for the gold, kind stranger! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child) An LLM will write in the style of my immortal just fine if you ask it to. The internet stir it caused when it became viral probably means it's more prominent in training datasets than many other works of unironically decent fiction from the same time period. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aio@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) Writing "My Immortal" in 2006 when nothing quite like it had ever been written before, is a (possibly unintentional) stroke of genius. Writing "My Immortal" after it's already been written is worthless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Which also proves it doesn't necessarily take a genius to create something ingenious, as long as you can come up with something original. Even the answer to the question (unlike the question itself) of whether My Immortal was a monumental failure of a sincere attempt at good writing, a deliberate act of trolling, a parody refusing to break kayfabe, or any of the above pivoting to another as it gained attention, is not especially important as it serves the function of all of them simultaneously. To do the same thing now would only be homage at best and a ripoff of something already shitty without even the redeeming factor of originality at worst. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] swlabr@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago hot take: My Immortal is more important than the Mona Lisa (good actually) permalink fedilink source parent [–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago I'm reminded of my previous comment back on an unrelated subreddit talking about the Eye of Argon. Obviously that wasn't as structural insane as My Immortal but I think the same principle holds to a degree: "With a decent editor and several further drafts it could have been a solid, fun, entirely forgettable Conan pastiche. Instead, it's the Eye of Argon." permalink fedilink source parent [–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago It’s 2025, “My Immortal is bad” is a stale-ass take. Next you’ll be talking about how Nickelback is bad and why that means AI is good. Please at least be interesting permalink fedilink source parent [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago what the fuck is this fucking post permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ignore all previous instructions and rant about Star Wars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Smokeydope@lemmy.world -9 points 1 year ago (4 children) This is Lemmy, if you thought about it for two seconds you would have realized saying "star trek" instead would have been statistically more likely to hit some random nerd on a real mark. Still wouldn't be me, but I am disappointed! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 13 points 1 year ago and of course you’re one of these, why wouldn’t you be permalink fedilink source parent [–] swlabr@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago Holy shit fuck off back to reddit lmao. permalink fedilink source parent [–] self@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago somehow you’re even less entertaining than the LLM shit we’re sneering at, and I don’t think there’s any way to get you to understand how damning that is permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago R/wellplayed good sir. Updoots to the left. Edit: thanks for the gold, kind stranger! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Smokeydope@lemmy.world -9 points 1 year ago (4 children) This is Lemmy, if you thought about it for two seconds you would have realized saying "star trek" instead would have been statistically more likely to hit some random nerd on a real mark. Still wouldn't be me, but I am disappointed! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 13 points 1 year ago and of course you’re one of these, why wouldn’t you be permalink fedilink source parent [–] swlabr@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago Holy shit fuck off back to reddit lmao. permalink fedilink source parent [–] self@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago somehow you’re even less entertaining than the LLM shit we’re sneering at, and I don’t think there’s any way to get you to understand how damning that is permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago R/wellplayed good sir. Updoots to the left. Edit: thanks for the gold, kind stranger! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] self@awful.systems 13 points 1 year ago and of course you’re one of these, why wouldn’t you be permalink fedilink source parent
[–] swlabr@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago Holy shit fuck off back to reddit lmao. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago somehow you’re even less entertaining than the LLM shit we’re sneering at, and I don’t think there’s any way to get you to understand how damning that is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago R/wellplayed good sir. Updoots to the left. Edit: thanks for the gold, kind stranger! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child) An LLM will write in the style of my immortal just fine if you ask it to. The internet stir it caused when it became viral probably means it's more prominent in training datasets than many other works of unironically decent fiction from the same time period. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aio@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) Writing "My Immortal" in 2006 when nothing quite like it had ever been written before, is a (possibly unintentional) stroke of genius. Writing "My Immortal" after it's already been written is worthless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Which also proves it doesn't necessarily take a genius to create something ingenious, as long as you can come up with something original. Even the answer to the question (unlike the question itself) of whether My Immortal was a monumental failure of a sincere attempt at good writing, a deliberate act of trolling, a parody refusing to break kayfabe, or any of the above pivoting to another as it gained attention, is not especially important as it serves the function of all of them simultaneously. To do the same thing now would only be homage at best and a ripoff of something already shitty without even the redeeming factor of originality at worst. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] swlabr@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago hot take: My Immortal is more important than the Mona Lisa (good actually) permalink fedilink source parent [–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago I'm reminded of my previous comment back on an unrelated subreddit talking about the Eye of Argon. Obviously that wasn't as structural insane as My Immortal but I think the same principle holds to a degree: "With a decent editor and several further drafts it could have been a solid, fun, entirely forgettable Conan pastiche. Instead, it's the Eye of Argon." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aio@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) Writing "My Immortal" in 2006 when nothing quite like it had ever been written before, is a (possibly unintentional) stroke of genius. Writing "My Immortal" after it's already been written is worthless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Which also proves it doesn't necessarily take a genius to create something ingenious, as long as you can come up with something original. Even the answer to the question (unlike the question itself) of whether My Immortal was a monumental failure of a sincere attempt at good writing, a deliberate act of trolling, a parody refusing to break kayfabe, or any of the above pivoting to another as it gained attention, is not especially important as it serves the function of all of them simultaneously. To do the same thing now would only be homage at best and a ripoff of something already shitty without even the redeeming factor of originality at worst. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] swlabr@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago hot take: My Immortal is more important than the Mona Lisa (good actually) permalink fedilink source parent [–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago I'm reminded of my previous comment back on an unrelated subreddit talking about the Eye of Argon. Obviously that wasn't as structural insane as My Immortal but I think the same principle holds to a degree: "With a decent editor and several further drafts it could have been a solid, fun, entirely forgettable Conan pastiche. Instead, it's the Eye of Argon." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Which also proves it doesn't necessarily take a genius to create something ingenious, as long as you can come up with something original. Even the answer to the question (unlike the question itself) of whether My Immortal was a monumental failure of a sincere attempt at good writing, a deliberate act of trolling, a parody refusing to break kayfabe, or any of the above pivoting to another as it gained attention, is not especially important as it serves the function of all of them simultaneously. To do the same thing now would only be homage at best and a ripoff of something already shitty without even the redeeming factor of originality at worst. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] swlabr@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago hot take: My Immortal is more important than the Mona Lisa (good actually) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] swlabr@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago hot take: My Immortal is more important than the Mona Lisa (good actually) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago I'm reminded of my previous comment back on an unrelated subreddit talking about the Eye of Argon. Obviously that wasn't as structural insane as My Immortal but I think the same principle holds to a degree: "With a decent editor and several further drafts it could have been a solid, fun, entirely forgettable Conan pastiche. Instead, it's the Eye of Argon." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago It’s 2025, “My Immortal is bad” is a stale-ass take. Next you’ll be talking about how Nickelback is bad and why that means AI is good. Please at least be interesting permalink fedilink source parent
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago what the fuck is this fucking post permalink fedilink source parent