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[–] 52 points 2 years ago (18 children)

Can we collectively decide not to respect American intellectual property laws to really hit the tech sector where it hurts? We don't get that many physical goods over here but most of our software is American owned. I advocate for not paying American tech companies anymore.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    EU regulations that can be triggered in response to tariffs include an option to make that completely legal

    Edit because I'm getting asked for a source: EU Anti Coercion Instrument that got passed in 2021 and came into effect in December 2023: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ%3AL_202302675

    Specifically Annex I, paragraph 7:

    ANNEX I

    Union response measures pursuant to Article 8

    [...]

    1. The imposition of restrictions on the protection of intellectual property rights or their commercial exploitation, in relation to rightholders that are nationals of the third country concerned, which may amount, as necessary, to the non-performance of applicable international obligations with respect to trade-related aspects of intellectual property rights.

    This applies to copyright and patents, but not trademarks as far as I know.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    We need our own tech stack, that is at least verifyable. It's due time to kick out the American tech giants from government projects etc.

    With America possibly becoming the new Russia it is just not safe to rely on Microsoft, Apple, Aws etc.

    We need an Europan open source stack.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (7 children)

    What kind of stack are you thinking of?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (6 children)

    I'm trying to make a google stack replacement, which can also extend to microsoft

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    That's worse. If someone was telling me about "google or microsoft stacks" without explaining what it is, I would laugh.

    Are you talking about OS, mobile OS, GUI, web, SaaS, APIs, services, subscriptions, servers, cloud, VMs, ...? What the fuck is a stack? Stack is a term that has been stolen by web devs and means nothing anymore.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    ...the services provided by google?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    You tell me. What is a Google stack? What is a Microsoft stack? The other guy was talking about a "tech stack" which practically means nothing.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Google's stack is the services they provide, so google docs is an example, google drive, hangouts, gmail, that bunch

    And the mirror from microsoft like m$ word, outlook, their cloud i forget the name of, minishit teams

    That type of shit, what else would i be talking about? It was very clear from the beginning

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    what else would i be talking about

    I'm a programmer. I was expecting languages, OS, open-source, APIs, file formats. What we have been calling "stacks" for the past 30 years but which has been hijacked by web devs.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    We're talking about more common folk, not whether a 5 line piece of code is memory safe in rust, which common folk don't care about

    With this im referring to more of what i could call a software stack

    ... stacks... hijacked by web devs

    Theres not just 1 kind of stack :^) its not static, you should know this

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump and his clowns clan. Go for the alternatives instead. Also, If you keep using the US software they still get all anvertisement and telemetry which is more valuable to them than the software itself anyway.

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