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[–] 31 points 2 years ago (66 children)

SPD and Grüne are helping the rise of fascism too even if it's not on purpose. Die Linke are the only ones in parliament actually working against it.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    Bold statement. Do you have any examples? I would disagree, but maybe I just don't quite understand what you meant.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    SPD is just standing by not doing anything (except being corrupt), basically silent complicity. The greens are also not clearly positioning themselves against the anti immigrant hatred, but they are still doing much better than the rest imo.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I agree with you on the SPD, but Habeck was pretty fucking clear that Abschiebung is not the way to go. The Linke on the other hand seems great until you see their position on NATO, rearmament, Russia, and Ukraine...

    My dad literally voted for Volt instead of Grüne because "the Grüne was to positive about immigration"

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I see peoples issues with the linke as largely unimportant. Having 9% of the seats taken by nato critical people is a healthy contra to the overwhelming majority that would never dare to criticize their sometimes criticism worthy decisions. If you never have anyone looking at things from an outside perspective the governement will lose touch with reality.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    Fair enough. While I myself wouldn't vote for them, I do agree that they are by no means evil. Their position certainly may even be valuable, I concede. I don't want my preferred party (the Grüne) to be the most radical left party, it's always good to have an even more left party to balance things out. We don't want to end up like the US, where even moderate things like universal healthcare are viewed as radical in the state. Democracy serves it's purpose. In other words: you've pretty much convinced me (though I would still vote Grüne).

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Correctly but, me who is supporting both volt and grüne and even is joining volt in summer, but with volts goal of a united europe,...that seems pretty pro immigration. Not to mention also them wanting easier immigration.

    Does your dad know something i dont?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    What should the SPD be doing?

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Behave like social democrats, push to fund infrastructure and school upgrades (instead of defunding them), not have a leading candidate that was involved with the biggest tax fraud scheme in recent history, etc

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I nisunderstood, I thought you were calling them to do something about AfD more directly.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    The best way to fight fascism is with meaningful policy thay helps the working class. The best way to help it is proving that liberal democracy consists in getting to choose which party gets to enforce austerity this term

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Both parties, in an attempt to win back AFD voters, are doing more and more of their anti immigrant politics. If you watch any political debates on TV, most of what they talk about is just who wants to deport the most immigrants and who reduced immigration the most.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Thanks for the clarification. I would even say that I mostly agree with the sentiment. Immigration has been a pointless discussion for years now and I think no party (except the AFD) actually profited from it. SPD and die Grünen have both failed to disspell the AFD narrative.

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