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Google relabling Canadian parks as 'state parks' (www.ctvnews.ca)
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[–] 169 points 2 years ago (43 children)

They're done this globally apparently. They just got rid of the provincial park option and defaults all government operated nature reserves, of any government, as "state parks".

Seems very shortsighted and with a disregard for other countries. Extremely confusing move by google.

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  • [–] 90 points 2 years ago (36 children)

    yea, 'state park', as in 'operated by the state'

    I can see why they did this, but its really stupid, especially at a time like this. i've reported half a dozen parks.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (26 children)

    There was no reason to do this other than stay out of Trumps retaliation zone. It is wrong to say operated by the state when it is operated by the province.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    My theory is that some asshole at google thought it was soo much to keep track of what every government globally calls their government operated parks and nature reserves, and just wanted a blanket term for it and went for "state park", with no consideration for how itd piss most countries off.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Cultural colonialism

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

    I can't tell whats more annoying: if they did it out of malice or indifference.

    Either way, the cultural homogenizing effects of mass social media is a mistake and must be fought against. Countries that primarily speak English are at the greatest threat of this. If I had a magic genie I'd wish that Canadian's native language was anything other than English so people's minds wouldn't be so easily poisoned by all the dumb bullshit media the US produces. There are genuinely people in Canada who believe they have Second Amendment rights.

    I've been saying this lately, but Canada as a whole needs to emulate what Quebec is doing to protect its cultural identity. Limit American media coming into the country. Defend and cultivate our unique cultural identity at all costs.

    Anyone that says Canada is not distinguished culturally from America is ignorant. I am a dual citizen who has lived in and loved both countries. Just because we are neighbours, mostly white, and speak the same language, does not make us identical. We have a different social fabric. The biggest difference is that America is a extremely individualistic society, and Canadians are a collective society. I'd call us socialist, but that word immediately turns off the listening ears of Americans as they have been programmed since McCarthy to reject socialism in all forms -- even though America has dozens of socialist programs such as social security and food stamps. To explain socialist concepts to Americans you have to use synonyms. It's like feeding a dog a pill covered in fucking peanut butter. Gotta "trick" them to help them because they just don't understand otherwise. I don't wanna trick anybody I just wanna help but stupid fucking billionaires got these idiots convinced socialist concepts are gonna destroy the country. Oh no! We made your medications cheaper and allowed you to unionize so you can get better wages and job security! So evil! I swear, if you changed "Union Dues" to "Employment Insurance" they'd be all aboard.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    Anyone that says Canada is not distinguished culturally from America is ignorant.

    This one struck me particularly delightfully because i've been getting into Letterkenny of all things and you very clearly do. Hell i can see that as an aussie,

    Should add, that probably sounded incredibly puerile, but most of our english-speaking country media is still dominated by the uk and US (although NZ is making inroads) We don't get much Canadian stuff down here, the last big one was due south and that was very pastiche.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I love me some Letterkenny. While it is a comedy, it really does an excellent job at highlighting what being Canadian means. I really need to watch the spin off, Shoresy.

    If you're interested in more media that helps you understand what being Canadian is all about, I'd recommend listening to some of the most iconic Canadians musicians of all time: Leonard Cohen, Neil Young, Gordon Lightfoot, The Tragically Hip, Bachman-Turner Overdrive, and The Band. You've almost certainly heard their songs before, but listen to some of their less popular music.

    Here's some specific songs that I am fond of, and feel highlight Common Canadian Sensibilities:

    • King Harvest (Has Surely Come) by The Band
    • Dance me to the End of Love by Leonard Cohen
    • In View by The Tragically Hip
    • Bobcaygeon by The Tragically Hip
    • Signs by Five Man Electrical Band
    • Carefree Highway by Gordon Lightfoot
    • If You Could Read My Mind by Gordon Lightfoot
    • Illegal by Corbeau
    • Universal Soldier by Buffy Sainte-Marie
    • Til I Am Myself Again by Blue Rodeo
    • (You're A) Strange Animal by Gowan
    • The Rest of My Life by Sloan
    • Money City Maniacs by Sloan
    • The Consumer by Stompin' Tom Connors
    • Helpless by Neil Young
    • Heart of Gold by Neil Young
    • Life Is A Highway by Tom Cochrane
    • American Psycho by Treble Charger
    • Truth Doesn't Live in a Book by Ben Chaplan
    • The Night Pat Murphy Died by Great Big Sea

    These showcase a variety of genres and locations within Canada. We are a big country with such a beautiful mixture of experiences that allow for such wonderful music to be produced.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Actually due south gatewayed me into canadian music back in the 90's, so I'm good there :)

    It's actually pretty fascinating because apart from the obvious differences there are a lot of common thematics with Australia that we don't share with the US - and a lot of that does have to do with the more social oriented societies as opposed to US individualism.

    Well that and the massive emphasis on maritime activities

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I doubt it, its the same issue with google changing Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America recently. Its a USA thing, all other mapping systems still have it as Gulf of Mexico because they aren't bowing to trump and elon. A state and a province are not the same, provinces have less autonomy than a state.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    oh, thats 100% what happened.

    "should we vary what these are called by country?"

    "ehh, that would cost like $10,000 of developer time around the globe, just standardize it"

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    No its the same as the recent Google move of renaming Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America, it is not easier, it just appeases trumps new mandates. Open Map systems around the world already include terms for Country/State/Province/territory, etc. Its a tag label in a program field.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Pretty sure this change was from November, but it's an issue now because of the Cheeto

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Online articles say people have screenshots from a few days ago as of Provincial and now it says State Park, so even if google did make a back end change before January then the timing is odd for it to be showing changes now.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    No one here is on Trump's side, so I'm not defending Google, but it is common parlance to refer to the government of a nation as "the state" even when the nation has no states.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Except we had terms prior for google and openmaps to consider actual state vs province because provinces are a different type of designation in a country. I.e. Canada has provinces and territories, and are not fully autonomous like a state. This is google purposely changing a system to suit US use, while other map systems maintain the preestablish parlance.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yep. Its not technically wrong to call them state parks, but still fuck'em that is our PROVINCIAL park.

    Maybe a small cultural hill we are on right now but we give us enough of these hills and suddenly we lose any semblance of cultural uniqueness.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    The problem is that for us there is a big difference between municipally run, province-run, and federally run parks. We also have private parks, privately owned but publically accessible parks, and of course, amusement parks.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    half a dozen

    Fucking Casual. :-P

    I fully expect they're gonna close my google account based on the amount of work some poor underpaid kid now has to do. I think I got every park in my province - already a herculean feat - and the one next door. It's a lotta parks. I'm a little crazy.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Odd, I just looked up a famous national park in the UK and it's listed as 'National Park'

    Peak District National Park as shown on Google Maps 24 February 2024

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah, it's the regional (sub-National) parks affected.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    For me, using English (GB) as localization, they appear as national parks. Maybe it's the term they use for English (US) set phones πŸ€” Im located in Finland as well so.

    Even the ones in US show up as national for me. Also checked the gulf of mexico, it's still that for me.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    That would make sense if we used English (US), but we use English (CA). Just a brief check of the parks in my area shows all the national parks are labeled "National Park", the provincial parks are almost all "State Park[s]" with the occasional "Park", and the regional parks have no consistent or logical pattern but I counted at least 5 different park labels.

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