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PewDiePie is a Nazi
Fuck off
It's absolutely true, look it up if you don't believe it. This is good for the Linux community as it will likely get more people on board but it doesn't change the fact that he's a horrible person.
So first thing I found was this time in 2018 where he found a video by a creator called E;R about death note, and reccomended him without doing a background check. So E;R was a racist and Felix didn't look further into it. When he was called out, he edited it out and publicly apologized. I don't think that makes him a Nazi, he just forgot to research what he was promoting. [1]
Now here's the second thing, which actually involves malicious intent:
[2]
Now obviously paying people to say antisemitic comments is terrible, and I think Felix was trying to phrase this as some sort of """joke""" but I don't think this makes him a Nazi.
There hasn't been a history of behaviour resembling that of the ideals of Nazis from Felix, especially not enough to say that he partakes in those ideologies. Thankfully his "dark humour " phase ended years ago and he isn't doing these things anymore, so completely estranging him from anything for it is quite extreme, especially when I have seem some of this sentiment on Lemmy myself. Nor do I think he's a horrible person for edgy comments and actions that most of us have definitely done one way or another on the Internet.
[1 https://www.vox.com/2018/12/13/18136253/pewdiepie-vs-tseries-links-to-white-supremacist-alt-right-redpill
[2] https://www.wsj.com/articles/disney-severs-ties-with-youtube-star-pewdiepie-after-anti-semitic-posts-1487034533
Right?
If rich people can't pay poor people to hold a "death to jews" sign without being label nazi anymore, what can the even do... Maybe he's autistic. What's next, you wont have the right to say the n word live or recommend a nazi channel to your millions of young followers??
The left is ruining everything, we can't even do a roman salute anymore without not facing any fucking consequences.
/s
That. He would have started YouTube at 20 and the guy is now 35. That would have happened when he was 28.
People change, people learn. That one in particular hit him hard and probably led to a lot of self reflection and all that stuff.
We have actual nazis to deal with that actually think it's a good idea. There's a huge difference between a bad dark joke and actually supporting facism. How one responds after such an incident matters a lot.
Meanwhile Elon did a literal nazi salute and isn't even denying it nor apologizing and doubling down on it.
I had my share of hitler jokes, but they were told on a context when it was seen as poking fun at a solved issue of the past in a very progressive area, when nobody thought we'd be dumb enough to witness facism ever again. Context and meaning are both very important before labeling someone for life.
Want to remind everyone that it's not just Elon who's done the Nazi salute. Steve Bannon has followed his example. A couple others as well, including a fucking pastor. The Fourth Reich wasn't on my 2025 bingo card but I guess here we are.
I choose to believe they're also being edgy in a very untasteful way, but mostly because I honestly can't do much about it. My options essentially are:
My actions now assuming either are equivalent. I'm going to keep going to my day job, spending time with my family, and helping people in my community. If my country actually goes fascist, am I going to join some resistance group? Probably not, because there's no way I'm standing up to the US military. Am I going to move to another country? Probably not, because the US would likely crush whatever country I move to anyway.
The chances of the US actually going fascist are incredibly small; higher than I'd like, but still small. Trump and Musk will certainly shake things up, but I highly doubt they'll achieve a hostile takeover, or even try. Because why would they? Trump is old, surely he doesn't really want more than 4 years anyway, and trying to justify Musk as the President isn't happening (he's ineligible constitutionally, he didn't win any election, and he doesn't even hold an office in the line of succession).
The simplest explanations are:
This explanation makes a lot more sense than some weird obsession with fascism: Trump wants to be remembered (for good or ill) and Musk is just messing around. Jumping to fascism is a leap, but again, my actions in either scenario are the same, so I'll choose to believe the more likely, less bad option.
To me the Fiverr thing was clearly a really bad taste dark humor joke and a test of if they'd really write anything you told them to rather than his actual beliefs. It was really dumb and irresponsible to keep in the video though.
I think it's kind of funny though, not because of the message, but because it's a complete slap in the face of "cancel culture." It's ironically baiting people to "cancel" him for trying to get others "cancelled."
He could have instead written "death to Indians" and it would've been similarly on-the-nose dark humor. The message here is only relevant in that you're getting people to do something they wouldn't normally do (if they understood what it meant) for a small amount of money. He's not saying Indians are Nazis, or even that he is a Nazi, he's merely poking fun at how easy it is to get someone go so something atrocious.
That said, I would never do it because I'm not a jerk. That doesn't mean I don't find it funny and ironic though.
Now, I pay no attention at all to pewdiepie, and this is the first I've heard about this paying people to hold up an anti-semitic sign as a "joke", or whatever, but from my limited knowledge, this sort of behavior is absolutely the hallmark of a horrible person. There is a world of difference between the average "edgy" comment and paying people to hold up a sign that says "death to all jews".
The difference is dark humor. Maybe it's not for you, and it's not really for me, but surely you can recognize the humor and irony in it if you take a moment. It's kind of like Ashton Kutcher's "punk'd," but even less tasteful. Similar "edgy" content with a different theme would be something like llamas with hats, which jokes about murder (including nuclear bombs) and sociopathy, with graphic, hand drawn images. It's very dark, but there's absolutely humor there.
The important thing is to recognize it for what it is (dark humor) and not affix any additional meaning to it. Gamers are notoriously toxic and edgy, but that doesn't mean they believe the nonsense they spew.
Nazis legitimately support ethnic cleansing and authoritarian control in government, and will support any measure that benefits the government and the majority over minorities. I don't see any of that in PewDiePie, just tasteless jokes with very edgy themes.