▲ 982 ▼ Digital Fingerprinting: Google launched a new era of tracking worse than cookie banners | Tuta (tuta.com) submitted 2 years ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world 230 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) How would that even be enforced? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TomasEkeli@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) same way other regulations are enforced: fines permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That might work if the fine was say $1.5 B permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jakule17@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) The European Commission has fined Apple over €1.8 billion for abusing its dominant position on the market for the distribution of music streaming apps to iPhone and iPad users (‘iOS users') through its App Store EU knows how to get it done permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago God bless those European MF'rs permalink fedilink source parent [–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) How do you prove they’re doing it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago If you have reason to believe they are, you explain that reasoning to a court and if the reasoning is sufficiently persuasive the company can be compelled to provide internal information that could show whatever is going on. Hiding this information or destroying it typically carries personal penalties for the individuals involved in it's destruction, as well as itself being evidence against the organization. "If your company didn't collect this information, why are four IT administrators and their manager serving 10 years in prison for intentionally deleting relevant business records?" The courts are allowed to go through your stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago They're making money aren't they? They have to be doing something weird. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TomasEkeli@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Investigation, witnesses, gather evidence, build a case and present the evidence. Same as any other thing. I don't get why this would be harder to prove than other things? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ronno@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Not sure how to effectively do that, but I reckon it would be no different than the cookie mess today. Which unfortunately is, hardly ever. The big GDPR related fines can still apply. Let's say a data set is leaked that includes tracking data that was not necessary for the service to have, then the company can receive a hefty fine. As long as the fine is larger than the reward, it might not be worth it for the company to track you anymore. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TomasEkeli@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) same way other regulations are enforced: fines permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That might work if the fine was say $1.5 B permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jakule17@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) The European Commission has fined Apple over €1.8 billion for abusing its dominant position on the market for the distribution of music streaming apps to iPhone and iPad users (‘iOS users') through its App Store EU knows how to get it done permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago God bless those European MF'rs permalink fedilink source parent [–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) How do you prove they’re doing it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago If you have reason to believe they are, you explain that reasoning to a court and if the reasoning is sufficiently persuasive the company can be compelled to provide internal information that could show whatever is going on. Hiding this information or destroying it typically carries personal penalties for the individuals involved in it's destruction, as well as itself being evidence against the organization. "If your company didn't collect this information, why are four IT administrators and their manager serving 10 years in prison for intentionally deleting relevant business records?" The courts are allowed to go through your stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago They're making money aren't they? They have to be doing something weird. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TomasEkeli@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Investigation, witnesses, gather evidence, build a case and present the evidence. Same as any other thing. I don't get why this would be harder to prove than other things? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That might work if the fine was say $1.5 B permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jakule17@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) The European Commission has fined Apple over €1.8 billion for abusing its dominant position on the market for the distribution of music streaming apps to iPhone and iPad users (‘iOS users') through its App Store EU knows how to get it done permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago God bless those European MF'rs permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jakule17@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) The European Commission has fined Apple over €1.8 billion for abusing its dominant position on the market for the distribution of music streaming apps to iPhone and iPad users (‘iOS users') through its App Store EU knows how to get it done permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago God bless those European MF'rs permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago God bless those European MF'rs permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) How do you prove they’re doing it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago If you have reason to believe they are, you explain that reasoning to a court and if the reasoning is sufficiently persuasive the company can be compelled to provide internal information that could show whatever is going on. Hiding this information or destroying it typically carries personal penalties for the individuals involved in it's destruction, as well as itself being evidence against the organization. "If your company didn't collect this information, why are four IT administrators and their manager serving 10 years in prison for intentionally deleting relevant business records?" The courts are allowed to go through your stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago They're making money aren't they? They have to be doing something weird. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TomasEkeli@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Investigation, witnesses, gather evidence, build a case and present the evidence. Same as any other thing. I don't get why this would be harder to prove than other things? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago If you have reason to believe they are, you explain that reasoning to a court and if the reasoning is sufficiently persuasive the company can be compelled to provide internal information that could show whatever is going on. Hiding this information or destroying it typically carries personal penalties for the individuals involved in it's destruction, as well as itself being evidence against the organization. "If your company didn't collect this information, why are four IT administrators and their manager serving 10 years in prison for intentionally deleting relevant business records?" The courts are allowed to go through your stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago They're making money aren't they? They have to be doing something weird. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TomasEkeli@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Investigation, witnesses, gather evidence, build a case and present the evidence. Same as any other thing. I don't get why this would be harder to prove than other things? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ronno@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Not sure how to effectively do that, but I reckon it would be no different than the cookie mess today. Which unfortunately is, hardly ever. The big GDPR related fines can still apply. Let's say a data set is leaked that includes tracking data that was not necessary for the service to have, then the company can receive a hefty fine. As long as the fine is larger than the reward, it might not be worth it for the company to track you anymore. permalink fedilink source parent