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it's good to look in the mirror and understand the material outcomes of voter behavior (lemmy.cafe)
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I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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[–] 4 points 2 years ago (7 children)

The DNC platform was free medicine, money out of politics, and taxing the rich.

Money out of politics? From the DNC? Do you seriously believe this? When was the last time Hardis talked about this in her campaign?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

    They voted on campaign finance caps and limitations in 1995 and 2002 which passed and was sued by Citizens United in 2007 when 5 republican leaning SCOTUS judges struck it down as unconstitutional, and the DNC tried to pass more campaign finance laws recently with HR 1 For the People Act in 2019 and 2021 and again as Freedom to Vote Act in 2021 and 2023.

    So yes, the DNC have actively attempted to pass campaign finances for over 20 years. That's a core part of their platform.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Admittedly I didn't know that, but also where was any of that in their 2024 platform? When was the last time Harris included getting money out of politics in her campaign speeches?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think they focused too much on emotions and cowboys in their advertisements as well, but it's not like they never stated their intentions. People just don't talk about this stuff in social media, these days, and thats sadly exactly where most people hear about politics in general.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The reason I'm asking is that the Harris campaign progressively dropped or watered down its promises throughout the campaign. For example the wealth tax promise started out good (I don't remember how much) and ended up as an unfulfilled Biden-era promise. Statements or promises from the early part of the campaign, let alone from before the campaign, don't reflect the choice voters had at the ballot box. One example would be the DNC going from rejecting the border wall to promising to build it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    The US Tax Laws dont expire until 2026.

    Trump and the GOP wrote the last round in his previous term and we gave him the power to write this next round as well.

    The fact is despite all of the great bills passed under Biden and all the great things the regulatory bodies did by going after big businesses, we gave them a neutered congress that couldnt even pick a senate majority without VP Tiebreaker, much less clear the 60 votes needed to bypass filibuster.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The Democratic platform is really quite leftwing. It contains things like increasing the minimum wage, getting money out of politics etc etc. The problem is in how they run campaigns. The role of consultants is far too big, and this lets the GOP set the agenda.

    Example: The GOP talks about the border constantly->media reports on the border-> voters in focus groups report caring deeply about the border->Dems campaign on the border (arguably their weakest point).

    If Kamala had campaigned heavily on healthcare (say expanding Medicare), she could have shifted part of the focus away from the border and towards healthcare (the GOPs weakest point), which shifts the momentum.

    The same happened with many other topics. The campaign talked about the economy (whatever that means, but somehow voters associate this with GOP), rather than raising minimum wages or building homes (a strength of Dems). Climate change was never even mentioned throughout the campaign.

    Dems have to find a way to lead the conversation, rather than follow a conversation set by the GOP or they will never win.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    The DNC platform in general has a lot of leftwing policy yes. However, they're very... noncommittal about it. The party leadership is a bunch of geriatric centrists who only pass some progressive policy among an ocean of status quo centrism. However, that part alone is... fine. It's not good, but not really a big problem. The big problem is how they sideline their leftwing platform whenever there's an opportunity where they think they can do that without being flayed by voters, such as in this election. I'll paste my reply to the other guy here.

    The reason I'm asking is that the Harris campaign progressively dropped or watered down its promises throughout the campaign. For example the wealth tax promise started out good (I don't remember how much) and ended up as an unfulfilled Biden-era promise. Statements or promises from the early part of the campaign, let alone from before the campaign, don't reflect the choice voters had at the ballot box. One example would be the DNC going from rejecting the border wall to promising to build it.

    Part of this is bad campaigning, yes, but it's also undeniable that they actively attempted to shift to the right in this election. They didn't campaign on progressive economic policy because, if they did, they'd find themselves obliged to make good on at least some of those promises, which would piss off their donors. I mean remember the "nothing really comes to mind comment"? Talking about the wrong things is one thing, but when asked about the right things the Democrats gave very wrong answers.

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