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Flag flown upside down as sign of distress outside of US State Department building today (lemmy.world)
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[–] 28 points 2 years ago (28 children)

The majority did not vote for this. The majority of voters didn't even vote for this. He only won a plurality (<50%)

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    He got the support of all the people who voted for him and all the people who didn't vote against him.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Lucky the USA allows everyone to vote no matter what; doesn’t schedule it for a standard workday, meaning nobody has to choose between feeding their kids and voting; plans out enough polling stations so that people don’t have to wait for hours without access to food, water, or seating; doesn’t surprise deregister voters with little notice; and sends out absentee ballots reliably with sufficient time to return them…

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Georgia had both mail-in absentee voting and, especially, 2 weeks of early voting including on weekends. In most places the early voting lines weren't terribly long. On election day most places were short.

    Most people still didn't vote.

    Some people couldn't vote. Millions of assholes just didn't bother and are partly to blame.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Inaction is an action. The majority are ok with this, otherwise they would have voted.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (7 children)

    Given that he campaigned claiming he wouldn't be enacting Project 2025 (even though it was obvious he would be), I don't think you can claim people not voting are automatically okay with him breaking that very explicit promise.

    No. Americans do not want this. Americans especially didn't want it done by some nutjob private citizen who has zero authority to do what he's doing, and no oversight.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    No. Americans do not want this

    Then they would've voted.

    By not voting they are saying they are ok with either option.

    That's how democracy works. Voters can bury their heads in the sand, it doesn't make the politicians go away.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Getting voted in is NOT permission to break the law.

    He's illegally bypassing Congress with his actions. Doesn't matter if this is what your dumbass voted for, it's not how this works.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    Sounds an awful lot like you're trying to convince yourself rather than me.

    Doesn't matter if this is what your dumbass voted for

    The projection doesn't help.

    Trump has been pretty clear that this was his plan. Anyone surprised by this is just willfully ignorant.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I shouldn't be surprised by your lack of reading comprehension. I'm not really sure what you're even responding to, none of it lines up with anything I just said.

    And again, telling you he's going to break the law doesn't mean he's allowed to break the law even if he is voted in after saying it.

    This is that half of America is functionally illiterate nonsense the rest of us have to deal with.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    I shouldn't be surprised by your lack of reading comprehension

    Back at it again with the projection.

    And again, telling you he's going to break the law doesn't mean he's allowed to break the law even if he is voted in after saying it.

    No idea why you keep bringing this up. Never once did I mention anything about this.

    none of it lines up with anything I just said.

    Because nothing you said lines up with what I said. I've been talking about how a non-vote is a vote. It means being ok with either option, and since the majority didn't vote, that means they are ok with what's happening.

    You started talking about laws and such, probably to calm a guilty conscience.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    You keep acting like votes mean permission to break the law. Our that people who generally don't pay attention to politics would be fine with someone they didn't vote for it against breaking the law. This is a dipshit logical stance to take. So pretending you're not the store one here when you try to say idiotic shit like this. Like did you think this through in your head?

    Yes, I keep bringing it up because you boot lickers love to ignore the context of everything you argue about. Abstraction is the only chance you have at winning an argument against such an obviously one sided discussion.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    You keep acting like votes mean permission to break the law

    ???

    What are you on about. What I am saying is that this is what Americans wanted. Why is that so hard to grasp.

    And again stop the projecting. I am not a trump supporter.

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  • [+] -17 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    No vote. No opinion.

    He got the majority of votes. He got the majority of the electoral.

    The majority of participating voters wanted this.

    Just because you guys cannot fathom how anyone would want this doesn't mean this is the same panic inducing situation for them. The majority of politically active people in the United States of America wanted this to happen as evidence of the election we just held.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    No. He got a plurality of the votes. Not a majority.

    The majority of participating voters voted against him.

    How many times do you need that repeated to understand?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean, I'm sure you're right. What I don't understand is how that technicality is even relevant. Even if 40% of the people voted for this, does that not still mean you have a sick and dangerous population on your hands? We're talking about tens of millions of people that voted for a fascist regime.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    It means he doesn't have the popular mandate they keep claiming they do.

    But yes. Half of adults are functionally illiterate. 5th-6th grade reading levels. They can physically read the words, but will only grasp the most basic surface level meaning. Republicans' started attacking education decades ago. This is what they wrought.

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  • [+] -19 points 2 years ago (9 children)
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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

    Outdated data. The votes were not done being counted on November 10th. Trump got 49.8% to Harris' 48.3%

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Ah. Fair enough. Last time I had seen it it was more than 50% still. Well then by a technicality not a majority then. I do love a technically correct statement so I'll give you that one.

    Still. More people voted for this than didn't vote for this.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Still. More people voted for this than didn't vote for this.

    I don't want to pile on, but if less than 50% voted for this, then more than 50% voted against it. The people voting against it didn't vote for the same thing, but they did vote against this.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Well if you love technicalities you should've realized that people who didn't vote at all for any reason also didn't vote for this. Technically.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm not playing that game. Only people who voted get a say. Even if you give Kamala ALL the third party votes (which arguably the RFK votes would probably go to Trump) she still loses the popular vote and the election.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    You may want to take a look at this if you have time. It may look suspect because it's just some guy's blog with a stupid cartoon image at the top but the data is quite real. If you want you can scroll to the bottom first where the author gives his credentials. I wish he'd put that at the top.

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