▲ 461 ▼ Trump pardons Ross Ulbricht, founder of Silk Road drug marketplace (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 175 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) You think Ross did from prison? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago Absolutely I do. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -12 points 2 years ago (3 children) Of course they do. This is how they cope with anything Trump related. They come up with conspiracy theories. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Kodak black paid 2mil for a pardon the first time. This is highly likely to be true, you are either uniformed, a bot, or in on the grift. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ross was an idiot, that’s why he was caught. They seized all his remaining bitcoin, what hadn’t been stolen by hackers because, again, he was an idiot and the Silk Road was slapped together from code cobbled from other places. There’s no way the dude was smart enough to set some aside for bribes in case he got caught, because he was so sure he wouldn’t that he advertised the Silk Road using his personal email with his real name in forum posts. While I don’t think he deserved life in prison, he sure as hell ended up there because of how ridiculously idiotic he was. The dude isn’t smart enough to be a manager at Arby’s, let alone run a criminal enterprise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) isn’t smart enough to be a manager at Arby’s Hey buddy, chill, there's almost certainly talented doctors from other countries who couldn't afford to recertify managing at least 2 Arby's...and those will be the only 2 you don't get food poisoning from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is completely missing my point. I’m sure there’s literal rocket scientists who have had to work at Arby’s to make ends meet, but that has nothing to do with Ross lacking the intellect to properly manage one. We’re not talking about immigrant doctors in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Sure, or you can read my comment again and realise the joke I was making. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) they didn't catch him because of bad opsec, unless you consider Tor to be bad opsec. they caught him with a parallel reconstruction after the NSA illegally spied on him. change my mind permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago You can watch any documentary on Silk Road. Or for that matter, the Wikipedia article says the same damn thing. But I don’t need to change your mind. You’re some random person on the internet, nothing any of us says really matters to anyone else here. Believe it or don’t, it’s up to you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) How did he pay all that money while in prison? Where are you getting your facts about Ross from besides your ass? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] potpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How does being in prison prohibit moving around assets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (3 children) This is incredibly stupid. Prison officials will do everything they can to prevent an inmate from moving around assets for VERY OBVIOUS reasons. But, after thinking about it, it may not be so obvious for this echo chamber so let me explain the obvious. You are an inmate in prison. You made millions doing your illegal thing while free but you hare now doing hard time. You don't like hard time, you want easy or no time. How do you make your life better while in prison. Wait, you have millions. You'll just use that money to have your way with the guards and prison system. Guard giving you trouble? Use your assets that you've amassed to "get rid of them". The prison system has protocols and processes in place to prevent all inmates from being able to control any assets they have on the outside. This prevents them from committing further crimes, exerting influence, or running an enterprise (criminal or legal) while incarcerated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wardens do not have access to financial of prisoners. Why would you think that would be the case? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They don't have access to an inmate's finances. But it may be against a prison's policy for an inmate to go into certain contracts. This is dependent on the inmate's conviction and each prison system. The prison also doesn't allow any privacy so running a business while in prison will be picked up and disciplinary action will be taken. The prison is supposed to protect the public from the inmate so it would look really bad if an inmate is running a business from prison. It can be a threat to the public and prison if they are able to control outside money from prison because then they could continue to commit crimes. So yeah I warden doesn't have access to things like bank accounts or brokerage accounts but they control all forms of communication. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where do you live? It’s as if you have literally no idea what you are talking about on any kind of level. Seriously you’re just incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where the hell do you live? Not gonna give up my address to you but I'm in America. I know people who've been to prison. I've made those phone calls with them to handle finances. You say I'm wrong but won't say how. It's a fact that they monitor every phone call an inmate makes. It's a fact that inmates cannot give consent and thus cannot enter into contracts, something that running a business needs. They would have to do everything through someone legally representing them, typically a lawyer, and that's no guarantee that their representation would do thing that are illegal for them. The prison IS supposed to protect the public from the inmates, that's why they have guards. So how am I wrong? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Are you aware that inmates still can have contracts that they entered into before prison? Even if ypur claim that they couldn't sign new contracts made sense, which it doesn't because how do they hire new lawyers if needed, they could still be fulfilling old ones. Ypu have been given tons of links by others that explicity prove your claims incorrect. It is ok to be wrong. You don't need to make false claims here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are naive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Explain how I'm the naive one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Again, I’m gonna suggest you look up lawyers and what they do. Here’s some resources: Lawyer (children’s edition) Revocable Living Trust (apologies, but this one isn’t very kid friendly) How prisons work (children’s edition) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate's money? EDIT: Also how about you read what you linked and the thread you are replying to. The conversation was about being in control of your assets while in prison. A revocable living trust is primarily used in estate planning to determine who will get your property when you die. Now can you explain how an inmate can use a revocable trust to bribe a politician into pardoning them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I present to you, Exhibit A: EDIT: I really underestimated how much hand-holding you’d need through this: READ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you even read what I said? You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate’s money? How much hand holding do you need? Reading comprehension much? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? Look, I get that you’re here to defend your boy. But if we can keep the goalposts in place where they belong, it’ll really help move things along to their logical conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? I did in the post you were replying to. I didn't move the goal post because I stated that at the very beginning. And I'm not defending anyone (I assume you meant Trump). What I've been trying to say is it is unlikely that Ross bribed Trump to get the pardon and it far more likely that Trump was fulfilling his campaign promise to the Libertarian party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Lawyers or anyone that has power of attorney can make payments on your behalf. How do you think people pay mortgages or make payments in jail? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is literally NOT the definition of a lawyer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I never said it was. I specified who can make payments for you while you are serving time. The fact you think this can’t happen or that the prison has any involvement in this is really off edit: It should say Lawyers OR not ir perhaps that’s the confusion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You edited your comment from what it was. I was replying to the original comment where you said something like Power of attorney makes someone an attorney. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The edit explains my edit. I turned "ir" into "or". permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* Lawyers and setting up trust funds. Try this website: permalink fedilink source parent [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can’t see Trump is for sale? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I never said he wasn't. If I had the cash I would ask for favors too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then why would you think this is a conspiracy theory? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think that Ulbricht had the capability to bribe Trump. I think that Lemmy and Reddit users are trying to justify Trump's pardon by saying it was done through illegal activity (bribery) instead of campaign promises. That's why I say they are making up conspiracy theories. Now I believe he can be bribed because of all the felonies he got from issuing bribes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gotcha, I still think he got paid for this because Ross was in for hiring a hitman which is an odd thing for Trump to pardon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Actually he was never convicted for hiring a hitman. Check out some of these videos. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Soooo…. Do you not know what lawyers and trusts are and what they do? If not, have an adult explain these things to you when you can, and if so…. Why embarrass yourself wish such an ignorant comment? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -12 points 2 years ago (3 children) Of course they do. This is how they cope with anything Trump related. They come up with conspiracy theories. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Kodak black paid 2mil for a pardon the first time. This is highly likely to be true, you are either uniformed, a bot, or in on the grift. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ross was an idiot, that’s why he was caught. They seized all his remaining bitcoin, what hadn’t been stolen by hackers because, again, he was an idiot and the Silk Road was slapped together from code cobbled from other places. There’s no way the dude was smart enough to set some aside for bribes in case he got caught, because he was so sure he wouldn’t that he advertised the Silk Road using his personal email with his real name in forum posts. While I don’t think he deserved life in prison, he sure as hell ended up there because of how ridiculously idiotic he was. The dude isn’t smart enough to be a manager at Arby’s, let alone run a criminal enterprise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) isn’t smart enough to be a manager at Arby’s Hey buddy, chill, there's almost certainly talented doctors from other countries who couldn't afford to recertify managing at least 2 Arby's...and those will be the only 2 you don't get food poisoning from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is completely missing my point. I’m sure there’s literal rocket scientists who have had to work at Arby’s to make ends meet, but that has nothing to do with Ross lacking the intellect to properly manage one. We’re not talking about immigrant doctors in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Sure, or you can read my comment again and realise the joke I was making. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) they didn't catch him because of bad opsec, unless you consider Tor to be bad opsec. they caught him with a parallel reconstruction after the NSA illegally spied on him. change my mind permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago You can watch any documentary on Silk Road. Or for that matter, the Wikipedia article says the same damn thing. But I don’t need to change your mind. You’re some random person on the internet, nothing any of us says really matters to anyone else here. Believe it or don’t, it’s up to you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) How did he pay all that money while in prison? Where are you getting your facts about Ross from besides your ass? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] potpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How does being in prison prohibit moving around assets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (3 children) This is incredibly stupid. Prison officials will do everything they can to prevent an inmate from moving around assets for VERY OBVIOUS reasons. But, after thinking about it, it may not be so obvious for this echo chamber so let me explain the obvious. You are an inmate in prison. You made millions doing your illegal thing while free but you hare now doing hard time. You don't like hard time, you want easy or no time. How do you make your life better while in prison. Wait, you have millions. You'll just use that money to have your way with the guards and prison system. Guard giving you trouble? Use your assets that you've amassed to "get rid of them". The prison system has protocols and processes in place to prevent all inmates from being able to control any assets they have on the outside. This prevents them from committing further crimes, exerting influence, or running an enterprise (criminal or legal) while incarcerated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wardens do not have access to financial of prisoners. Why would you think that would be the case? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They don't have access to an inmate's finances. But it may be against a prison's policy for an inmate to go into certain contracts. This is dependent on the inmate's conviction and each prison system. The prison also doesn't allow any privacy so running a business while in prison will be picked up and disciplinary action will be taken. The prison is supposed to protect the public from the inmate so it would look really bad if an inmate is running a business from prison. It can be a threat to the public and prison if they are able to control outside money from prison because then they could continue to commit crimes. So yeah I warden doesn't have access to things like bank accounts or brokerage accounts but they control all forms of communication. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where do you live? It’s as if you have literally no idea what you are talking about on any kind of level. Seriously you’re just incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where the hell do you live? Not gonna give up my address to you but I'm in America. I know people who've been to prison. I've made those phone calls with them to handle finances. You say I'm wrong but won't say how. It's a fact that they monitor every phone call an inmate makes. It's a fact that inmates cannot give consent and thus cannot enter into contracts, something that running a business needs. They would have to do everything through someone legally representing them, typically a lawyer, and that's no guarantee that their representation would do thing that are illegal for them. The prison IS supposed to protect the public from the inmates, that's why they have guards. So how am I wrong? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Are you aware that inmates still can have contracts that they entered into before prison? Even if ypur claim that they couldn't sign new contracts made sense, which it doesn't because how do they hire new lawyers if needed, they could still be fulfilling old ones. Ypu have been given tons of links by others that explicity prove your claims incorrect. It is ok to be wrong. You don't need to make false claims here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are naive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Explain how I'm the naive one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Again, I’m gonna suggest you look up lawyers and what they do. Here’s some resources: Lawyer (children’s edition) Revocable Living Trust (apologies, but this one isn’t very kid friendly) How prisons work (children’s edition) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate's money? EDIT: Also how about you read what you linked and the thread you are replying to. The conversation was about being in control of your assets while in prison. A revocable living trust is primarily used in estate planning to determine who will get your property when you die. Now can you explain how an inmate can use a revocable trust to bribe a politician into pardoning them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I present to you, Exhibit A: EDIT: I really underestimated how much hand-holding you’d need through this: READ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you even read what I said? You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate’s money? How much hand holding do you need? Reading comprehension much? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? Look, I get that you’re here to defend your boy. But if we can keep the goalposts in place where they belong, it’ll really help move things along to their logical conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? I did in the post you were replying to. I didn't move the goal post because I stated that at the very beginning. And I'm not defending anyone (I assume you meant Trump). What I've been trying to say is it is unlikely that Ross bribed Trump to get the pardon and it far more likely that Trump was fulfilling his campaign promise to the Libertarian party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Lawyers or anyone that has power of attorney can make payments on your behalf. How do you think people pay mortgages or make payments in jail? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is literally NOT the definition of a lawyer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I never said it was. I specified who can make payments for you while you are serving time. The fact you think this can’t happen or that the prison has any involvement in this is really off edit: It should say Lawyers OR not ir perhaps that’s the confusion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You edited your comment from what it was. I was replying to the original comment where you said something like Power of attorney makes someone an attorney. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The edit explains my edit. I turned "ir" into "or". permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* Lawyers and setting up trust funds. Try this website: permalink fedilink source parent [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can’t see Trump is for sale? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I never said he wasn't. If I had the cash I would ask for favors too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then why would you think this is a conspiracy theory? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think that Ulbricht had the capability to bribe Trump. I think that Lemmy and Reddit users are trying to justify Trump's pardon by saying it was done through illegal activity (bribery) instead of campaign promises. That's why I say they are making up conspiracy theories. Now I believe he can be bribed because of all the felonies he got from issuing bribes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gotcha, I still think he got paid for this because Ross was in for hiring a hitman which is an odd thing for Trump to pardon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Actually he was never convicted for hiring a hitman. Check out some of these videos. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Soooo…. Do you not know what lawyers and trusts are and what they do? If not, have an adult explain these things to you when you can, and if so…. Why embarrass yourself wish such an ignorant comment? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Kodak black paid 2mil for a pardon the first time. This is highly likely to be true, you are either uniformed, a bot, or in on the grift. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ross was an idiot, that’s why he was caught. They seized all his remaining bitcoin, what hadn’t been stolen by hackers because, again, he was an idiot and the Silk Road was slapped together from code cobbled from other places. There’s no way the dude was smart enough to set some aside for bribes in case he got caught, because he was so sure he wouldn’t that he advertised the Silk Road using his personal email with his real name in forum posts. While I don’t think he deserved life in prison, he sure as hell ended up there because of how ridiculously idiotic he was. The dude isn’t smart enough to be a manager at Arby’s, let alone run a criminal enterprise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) isn’t smart enough to be a manager at Arby’s Hey buddy, chill, there's almost certainly talented doctors from other countries who couldn't afford to recertify managing at least 2 Arby's...and those will be the only 2 you don't get food poisoning from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is completely missing my point. I’m sure there’s literal rocket scientists who have had to work at Arby’s to make ends meet, but that has nothing to do with Ross lacking the intellect to properly manage one. We’re not talking about immigrant doctors in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Sure, or you can read my comment again and realise the joke I was making. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) they didn't catch him because of bad opsec, unless you consider Tor to be bad opsec. they caught him with a parallel reconstruction after the NSA illegally spied on him. change my mind permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago You can watch any documentary on Silk Road. Or for that matter, the Wikipedia article says the same damn thing. But I don’t need to change your mind. You’re some random person on the internet, nothing any of us says really matters to anyone else here. Believe it or don’t, it’s up to you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) How did he pay all that money while in prison? Where are you getting your facts about Ross from besides your ass? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] potpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How does being in prison prohibit moving around assets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (3 children) This is incredibly stupid. Prison officials will do everything they can to prevent an inmate from moving around assets for VERY OBVIOUS reasons. But, after thinking about it, it may not be so obvious for this echo chamber so let me explain the obvious. You are an inmate in prison. You made millions doing your illegal thing while free but you hare now doing hard time. You don't like hard time, you want easy or no time. How do you make your life better while in prison. Wait, you have millions. You'll just use that money to have your way with the guards and prison system. Guard giving you trouble? Use your assets that you've amassed to "get rid of them". The prison system has protocols and processes in place to prevent all inmates from being able to control any assets they have on the outside. This prevents them from committing further crimes, exerting influence, or running an enterprise (criminal or legal) while incarcerated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wardens do not have access to financial of prisoners. Why would you think that would be the case? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They don't have access to an inmate's finances. But it may be against a prison's policy for an inmate to go into certain contracts. This is dependent on the inmate's conviction and each prison system. The prison also doesn't allow any privacy so running a business while in prison will be picked up and disciplinary action will be taken. The prison is supposed to protect the public from the inmate so it would look really bad if an inmate is running a business from prison. It can be a threat to the public and prison if they are able to control outside money from prison because then they could continue to commit crimes. So yeah I warden doesn't have access to things like bank accounts or brokerage accounts but they control all forms of communication. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where do you live? It’s as if you have literally no idea what you are talking about on any kind of level. Seriously you’re just incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where the hell do you live? Not gonna give up my address to you but I'm in America. I know people who've been to prison. I've made those phone calls with them to handle finances. You say I'm wrong but won't say how. It's a fact that they monitor every phone call an inmate makes. It's a fact that inmates cannot give consent and thus cannot enter into contracts, something that running a business needs. They would have to do everything through someone legally representing them, typically a lawyer, and that's no guarantee that their representation would do thing that are illegal for them. The prison IS supposed to protect the public from the inmates, that's why they have guards. So how am I wrong? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Are you aware that inmates still can have contracts that they entered into before prison? Even if ypur claim that they couldn't sign new contracts made sense, which it doesn't because how do they hire new lawyers if needed, they could still be fulfilling old ones. Ypu have been given tons of links by others that explicity prove your claims incorrect. It is ok to be wrong. You don't need to make false claims here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are naive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Explain how I'm the naive one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Again, I’m gonna suggest you look up lawyers and what they do. Here’s some resources: Lawyer (children’s edition) Revocable Living Trust (apologies, but this one isn’t very kid friendly) How prisons work (children’s edition) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate's money? EDIT: Also how about you read what you linked and the thread you are replying to. The conversation was about being in control of your assets while in prison. A revocable living trust is primarily used in estate planning to determine who will get your property when you die. Now can you explain how an inmate can use a revocable trust to bribe a politician into pardoning them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I present to you, Exhibit A: EDIT: I really underestimated how much hand-holding you’d need through this: READ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you even read what I said? You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate’s money? How much hand holding do you need? Reading comprehension much? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? Look, I get that you’re here to defend your boy. But if we can keep the goalposts in place where they belong, it’ll really help move things along to their logical conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? I did in the post you were replying to. I didn't move the goal post because I stated that at the very beginning. And I'm not defending anyone (I assume you meant Trump). What I've been trying to say is it is unlikely that Ross bribed Trump to get the pardon and it far more likely that Trump was fulfilling his campaign promise to the Libertarian party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Lawyers or anyone that has power of attorney can make payments on your behalf. How do you think people pay mortgages or make payments in jail? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is literally NOT the definition of a lawyer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I never said it was. I specified who can make payments for you while you are serving time. The fact you think this can’t happen or that the prison has any involvement in this is really off edit: It should say Lawyers OR not ir perhaps that’s the confusion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You edited your comment from what it was. I was replying to the original comment where you said something like Power of attorney makes someone an attorney. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The edit explains my edit. I turned "ir" into "or". permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* Lawyers and setting up trust funds. Try this website: permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ross was an idiot, that’s why he was caught. They seized all his remaining bitcoin, what hadn’t been stolen by hackers because, again, he was an idiot and the Silk Road was slapped together from code cobbled from other places. There’s no way the dude was smart enough to set some aside for bribes in case he got caught, because he was so sure he wouldn’t that he advertised the Silk Road using his personal email with his real name in forum posts. While I don’t think he deserved life in prison, he sure as hell ended up there because of how ridiculously idiotic he was. The dude isn’t smart enough to be a manager at Arby’s, let alone run a criminal enterprise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) isn’t smart enough to be a manager at Arby’s Hey buddy, chill, there's almost certainly talented doctors from other countries who couldn't afford to recertify managing at least 2 Arby's...and those will be the only 2 you don't get food poisoning from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is completely missing my point. I’m sure there’s literal rocket scientists who have had to work at Arby’s to make ends meet, but that has nothing to do with Ross lacking the intellect to properly manage one. We’re not talking about immigrant doctors in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Sure, or you can read my comment again and realise the joke I was making. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) they didn't catch him because of bad opsec, unless you consider Tor to be bad opsec. they caught him with a parallel reconstruction after the NSA illegally spied on him. change my mind permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago You can watch any documentary on Silk Road. Or for that matter, the Wikipedia article says the same damn thing. But I don’t need to change your mind. You’re some random person on the internet, nothing any of us says really matters to anyone else here. Believe it or don’t, it’s up to you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) isn’t smart enough to be a manager at Arby’s Hey buddy, chill, there's almost certainly talented doctors from other countries who couldn't afford to recertify managing at least 2 Arby's...and those will be the only 2 you don't get food poisoning from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is completely missing my point. I’m sure there’s literal rocket scientists who have had to work at Arby’s to make ends meet, but that has nothing to do with Ross lacking the intellect to properly manage one. We’re not talking about immigrant doctors in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Sure, or you can read my comment again and realise the joke I was making. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is completely missing my point. I’m sure there’s literal rocket scientists who have had to work at Arby’s to make ends meet, but that has nothing to do with Ross lacking the intellect to properly manage one. We’re not talking about immigrant doctors in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Sure, or you can read my comment again and realise the joke I was making. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Sure, or you can read my comment again and realise the joke I was making. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) they didn't catch him because of bad opsec, unless you consider Tor to be bad opsec. they caught him with a parallel reconstruction after the NSA illegally spied on him. change my mind permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago You can watch any documentary on Silk Road. Or for that matter, the Wikipedia article says the same damn thing. But I don’t need to change your mind. You’re some random person on the internet, nothing any of us says really matters to anyone else here. Believe it or don’t, it’s up to you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago You can watch any documentary on Silk Road. Or for that matter, the Wikipedia article says the same damn thing. But I don’t need to change your mind. You’re some random person on the internet, nothing any of us says really matters to anyone else here. Believe it or don’t, it’s up to you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) How did he pay all that money while in prison? Where are you getting your facts about Ross from besides your ass? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] potpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How does being in prison prohibit moving around assets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (3 children) This is incredibly stupid. Prison officials will do everything they can to prevent an inmate from moving around assets for VERY OBVIOUS reasons. But, after thinking about it, it may not be so obvious for this echo chamber so let me explain the obvious. You are an inmate in prison. You made millions doing your illegal thing while free but you hare now doing hard time. You don't like hard time, you want easy or no time. How do you make your life better while in prison. Wait, you have millions. You'll just use that money to have your way with the guards and prison system. Guard giving you trouble? Use your assets that you've amassed to "get rid of them". The prison system has protocols and processes in place to prevent all inmates from being able to control any assets they have on the outside. This prevents them from committing further crimes, exerting influence, or running an enterprise (criminal or legal) while incarcerated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wardens do not have access to financial of prisoners. Why would you think that would be the case? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They don't have access to an inmate's finances. But it may be against a prison's policy for an inmate to go into certain contracts. This is dependent on the inmate's conviction and each prison system. The prison also doesn't allow any privacy so running a business while in prison will be picked up and disciplinary action will be taken. The prison is supposed to protect the public from the inmate so it would look really bad if an inmate is running a business from prison. It can be a threat to the public and prison if they are able to control outside money from prison because then they could continue to commit crimes. So yeah I warden doesn't have access to things like bank accounts or brokerage accounts but they control all forms of communication. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where do you live? It’s as if you have literally no idea what you are talking about on any kind of level. Seriously you’re just incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where the hell do you live? Not gonna give up my address to you but I'm in America. I know people who've been to prison. I've made those phone calls with them to handle finances. You say I'm wrong but won't say how. It's a fact that they monitor every phone call an inmate makes. It's a fact that inmates cannot give consent and thus cannot enter into contracts, something that running a business needs. They would have to do everything through someone legally representing them, typically a lawyer, and that's no guarantee that their representation would do thing that are illegal for them. The prison IS supposed to protect the public from the inmates, that's why they have guards. So how am I wrong? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Are you aware that inmates still can have contracts that they entered into before prison? Even if ypur claim that they couldn't sign new contracts made sense, which it doesn't because how do they hire new lawyers if needed, they could still be fulfilling old ones. Ypu have been given tons of links by others that explicity prove your claims incorrect. It is ok to be wrong. You don't need to make false claims here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are naive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Explain how I'm the naive one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Again, I’m gonna suggest you look up lawyers and what they do. Here’s some resources: Lawyer (children’s edition) Revocable Living Trust (apologies, but this one isn’t very kid friendly) How prisons work (children’s edition) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate's money? EDIT: Also how about you read what you linked and the thread you are replying to. The conversation was about being in control of your assets while in prison. A revocable living trust is primarily used in estate planning to determine who will get your property when you die. Now can you explain how an inmate can use a revocable trust to bribe a politician into pardoning them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I present to you, Exhibit A: EDIT: I really underestimated how much hand-holding you’d need through this: READ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you even read what I said? You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate’s money? How much hand holding do you need? Reading comprehension much? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? Look, I get that you’re here to defend your boy. But if we can keep the goalposts in place where they belong, it’ll really help move things along to their logical conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? I did in the post you were replying to. I didn't move the goal post because I stated that at the very beginning. And I'm not defending anyone (I assume you meant Trump). What I've been trying to say is it is unlikely that Ross bribed Trump to get the pardon and it far more likely that Trump was fulfilling his campaign promise to the Libertarian party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Lawyers or anyone that has power of attorney can make payments on your behalf. How do you think people pay mortgages or make payments in jail? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is literally NOT the definition of a lawyer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I never said it was. I specified who can make payments for you while you are serving time. The fact you think this can’t happen or that the prison has any involvement in this is really off edit: It should say Lawyers OR not ir perhaps that’s the confusion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You edited your comment from what it was. I was replying to the original comment where you said something like Power of attorney makes someone an attorney. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The edit explains my edit. I turned "ir" into "or". permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* Lawyers and setting up trust funds. Try this website: permalink fedilink source parent
[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How does being in prison prohibit moving around assets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (3 children) This is incredibly stupid. Prison officials will do everything they can to prevent an inmate from moving around assets for VERY OBVIOUS reasons. But, after thinking about it, it may not be so obvious for this echo chamber so let me explain the obvious. You are an inmate in prison. You made millions doing your illegal thing while free but you hare now doing hard time. You don't like hard time, you want easy or no time. How do you make your life better while in prison. Wait, you have millions. You'll just use that money to have your way with the guards and prison system. Guard giving you trouble? Use your assets that you've amassed to "get rid of them". The prison system has protocols and processes in place to prevent all inmates from being able to control any assets they have on the outside. This prevents them from committing further crimes, exerting influence, or running an enterprise (criminal or legal) while incarcerated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wardens do not have access to financial of prisoners. Why would you think that would be the case? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They don't have access to an inmate's finances. But it may be against a prison's policy for an inmate to go into certain contracts. This is dependent on the inmate's conviction and each prison system. The prison also doesn't allow any privacy so running a business while in prison will be picked up and disciplinary action will be taken. The prison is supposed to protect the public from the inmate so it would look really bad if an inmate is running a business from prison. It can be a threat to the public and prison if they are able to control outside money from prison because then they could continue to commit crimes. So yeah I warden doesn't have access to things like bank accounts or brokerage accounts but they control all forms of communication. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where do you live? It’s as if you have literally no idea what you are talking about on any kind of level. Seriously you’re just incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where the hell do you live? Not gonna give up my address to you but I'm in America. I know people who've been to prison. I've made those phone calls with them to handle finances. You say I'm wrong but won't say how. It's a fact that they monitor every phone call an inmate makes. It's a fact that inmates cannot give consent and thus cannot enter into contracts, something that running a business needs. They would have to do everything through someone legally representing them, typically a lawyer, and that's no guarantee that their representation would do thing that are illegal for them. The prison IS supposed to protect the public from the inmates, that's why they have guards. So how am I wrong? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Are you aware that inmates still can have contracts that they entered into before prison? Even if ypur claim that they couldn't sign new contracts made sense, which it doesn't because how do they hire new lawyers if needed, they could still be fulfilling old ones. Ypu have been given tons of links by others that explicity prove your claims incorrect. It is ok to be wrong. You don't need to make false claims here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are naive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Explain how I'm the naive one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Again, I’m gonna suggest you look up lawyers and what they do. Here’s some resources: Lawyer (children’s edition) Revocable Living Trust (apologies, but this one isn’t very kid friendly) How prisons work (children’s edition) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate's money? EDIT: Also how about you read what you linked and the thread you are replying to. The conversation was about being in control of your assets while in prison. A revocable living trust is primarily used in estate planning to determine who will get your property when you die. Now can you explain how an inmate can use a revocable trust to bribe a politician into pardoning them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I present to you, Exhibit A: EDIT: I really underestimated how much hand-holding you’d need through this: READ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you even read what I said? You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate’s money? How much hand holding do you need? Reading comprehension much? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? Look, I get that you’re here to defend your boy. But if we can keep the goalposts in place where they belong, it’ll really help move things along to their logical conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? I did in the post you were replying to. I didn't move the goal post because I stated that at the very beginning. And I'm not defending anyone (I assume you meant Trump). What I've been trying to say is it is unlikely that Ross bribed Trump to get the pardon and it far more likely that Trump was fulfilling his campaign promise to the Libertarian party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (3 children) This is incredibly stupid. Prison officials will do everything they can to prevent an inmate from moving around assets for VERY OBVIOUS reasons. But, after thinking about it, it may not be so obvious for this echo chamber so let me explain the obvious. You are an inmate in prison. You made millions doing your illegal thing while free but you hare now doing hard time. You don't like hard time, you want easy or no time. How do you make your life better while in prison. Wait, you have millions. You'll just use that money to have your way with the guards and prison system. Guard giving you trouble? Use your assets that you've amassed to "get rid of them". The prison system has protocols and processes in place to prevent all inmates from being able to control any assets they have on the outside. This prevents them from committing further crimes, exerting influence, or running an enterprise (criminal or legal) while incarcerated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wardens do not have access to financial of prisoners. Why would you think that would be the case? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They don't have access to an inmate's finances. But it may be against a prison's policy for an inmate to go into certain contracts. This is dependent on the inmate's conviction and each prison system. The prison also doesn't allow any privacy so running a business while in prison will be picked up and disciplinary action will be taken. The prison is supposed to protect the public from the inmate so it would look really bad if an inmate is running a business from prison. It can be a threat to the public and prison if they are able to control outside money from prison because then they could continue to commit crimes. So yeah I warden doesn't have access to things like bank accounts or brokerage accounts but they control all forms of communication. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where do you live? It’s as if you have literally no idea what you are talking about on any kind of level. Seriously you’re just incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where the hell do you live? Not gonna give up my address to you but I'm in America. I know people who've been to prison. I've made those phone calls with them to handle finances. You say I'm wrong but won't say how. It's a fact that they monitor every phone call an inmate makes. It's a fact that inmates cannot give consent and thus cannot enter into contracts, something that running a business needs. They would have to do everything through someone legally representing them, typically a lawyer, and that's no guarantee that their representation would do thing that are illegal for them. The prison IS supposed to protect the public from the inmates, that's why they have guards. So how am I wrong? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Are you aware that inmates still can have contracts that they entered into before prison? Even if ypur claim that they couldn't sign new contracts made sense, which it doesn't because how do they hire new lawyers if needed, they could still be fulfilling old ones. Ypu have been given tons of links by others that explicity prove your claims incorrect. It is ok to be wrong. You don't need to make false claims here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are naive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Explain how I'm the naive one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Again, I’m gonna suggest you look up lawyers and what they do. Here’s some resources: Lawyer (children’s edition) Revocable Living Trust (apologies, but this one isn’t very kid friendly) How prisons work (children’s edition) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate's money? EDIT: Also how about you read what you linked and the thread you are replying to. The conversation was about being in control of your assets while in prison. A revocable living trust is primarily used in estate planning to determine who will get your property when you die. Now can you explain how an inmate can use a revocable trust to bribe a politician into pardoning them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I present to you, Exhibit A: EDIT: I really underestimated how much hand-holding you’d need through this: READ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you even read what I said? You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate’s money? How much hand holding do you need? Reading comprehension much? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? Look, I get that you’re here to defend your boy. But if we can keep the goalposts in place where they belong, it’ll really help move things along to their logical conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? I did in the post you were replying to. I didn't move the goal post because I stated that at the very beginning. And I'm not defending anyone (I assume you meant Trump). What I've been trying to say is it is unlikely that Ross bribed Trump to get the pardon and it far more likely that Trump was fulfilling his campaign promise to the Libertarian party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wardens do not have access to financial of prisoners. Why would you think that would be the case? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They don't have access to an inmate's finances. But it may be against a prison's policy for an inmate to go into certain contracts. This is dependent on the inmate's conviction and each prison system. The prison also doesn't allow any privacy so running a business while in prison will be picked up and disciplinary action will be taken. The prison is supposed to protect the public from the inmate so it would look really bad if an inmate is running a business from prison. It can be a threat to the public and prison if they are able to control outside money from prison because then they could continue to commit crimes. So yeah I warden doesn't have access to things like bank accounts or brokerage accounts but they control all forms of communication. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where do you live? It’s as if you have literally no idea what you are talking about on any kind of level. Seriously you’re just incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where the hell do you live? Not gonna give up my address to you but I'm in America. I know people who've been to prison. I've made those phone calls with them to handle finances. You say I'm wrong but won't say how. It's a fact that they monitor every phone call an inmate makes. It's a fact that inmates cannot give consent and thus cannot enter into contracts, something that running a business needs. They would have to do everything through someone legally representing them, typically a lawyer, and that's no guarantee that their representation would do thing that are illegal for them. The prison IS supposed to protect the public from the inmates, that's why they have guards. So how am I wrong? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Are you aware that inmates still can have contracts that they entered into before prison? Even if ypur claim that they couldn't sign new contracts made sense, which it doesn't because how do they hire new lawyers if needed, they could still be fulfilling old ones. Ypu have been given tons of links by others that explicity prove your claims incorrect. It is ok to be wrong. You don't need to make false claims here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They don't have access to an inmate's finances. But it may be against a prison's policy for an inmate to go into certain contracts. This is dependent on the inmate's conviction and each prison system. The prison also doesn't allow any privacy so running a business while in prison will be picked up and disciplinary action will be taken. The prison is supposed to protect the public from the inmate so it would look really bad if an inmate is running a business from prison. It can be a threat to the public and prison if they are able to control outside money from prison because then they could continue to commit crimes. So yeah I warden doesn't have access to things like bank accounts or brokerage accounts but they control all forms of communication. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where do you live? It’s as if you have literally no idea what you are talking about on any kind of level. Seriously you’re just incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where the hell do you live? Not gonna give up my address to you but I'm in America. I know people who've been to prison. I've made those phone calls with them to handle finances. You say I'm wrong but won't say how. It's a fact that they monitor every phone call an inmate makes. It's a fact that inmates cannot give consent and thus cannot enter into contracts, something that running a business needs. They would have to do everything through someone legally representing them, typically a lawyer, and that's no guarantee that their representation would do thing that are illegal for them. The prison IS supposed to protect the public from the inmates, that's why they have guards. So how am I wrong? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Are you aware that inmates still can have contracts that they entered into before prison? Even if ypur claim that they couldn't sign new contracts made sense, which it doesn't because how do they hire new lawyers if needed, they could still be fulfilling old ones. Ypu have been given tons of links by others that explicity prove your claims incorrect. It is ok to be wrong. You don't need to make false claims here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where do you live? It’s as if you have literally no idea what you are talking about on any kind of level. Seriously you’re just incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where the hell do you live? Not gonna give up my address to you but I'm in America. I know people who've been to prison. I've made those phone calls with them to handle finances. You say I'm wrong but won't say how. It's a fact that they monitor every phone call an inmate makes. It's a fact that inmates cannot give consent and thus cannot enter into contracts, something that running a business needs. They would have to do everything through someone legally representing them, typically a lawyer, and that's no guarantee that their representation would do thing that are illegal for them. The prison IS supposed to protect the public from the inmates, that's why they have guards. So how am I wrong? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Are you aware that inmates still can have contracts that they entered into before prison? Even if ypur claim that they couldn't sign new contracts made sense, which it doesn't because how do they hire new lawyers if needed, they could still be fulfilling old ones. Ypu have been given tons of links by others that explicity prove your claims incorrect. It is ok to be wrong. You don't need to make false claims here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where the hell do you live? Not gonna give up my address to you but I'm in America. I know people who've been to prison. I've made those phone calls with them to handle finances. You say I'm wrong but won't say how. It's a fact that they monitor every phone call an inmate makes. It's a fact that inmates cannot give consent and thus cannot enter into contracts, something that running a business needs. They would have to do everything through someone legally representing them, typically a lawyer, and that's no guarantee that their representation would do thing that are illegal for them. The prison IS supposed to protect the public from the inmates, that's why they have guards. So how am I wrong? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Are you aware that inmates still can have contracts that they entered into before prison? Even if ypur claim that they couldn't sign new contracts made sense, which it doesn't because how do they hire new lawyers if needed, they could still be fulfilling old ones. Ypu have been given tons of links by others that explicity prove your claims incorrect. It is ok to be wrong. You don't need to make false claims here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Are you aware that inmates still can have contracts that they entered into before prison? Even if ypur claim that they couldn't sign new contracts made sense, which it doesn't because how do they hire new lawyers if needed, they could still be fulfilling old ones. Ypu have been given tons of links by others that explicity prove your claims incorrect. It is ok to be wrong. You don't need to make false claims here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are naive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Explain how I'm the naive one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Explain how I'm the naive one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Again, I’m gonna suggest you look up lawyers and what they do. Here’s some resources: Lawyer (children’s edition) Revocable Living Trust (apologies, but this one isn’t very kid friendly) How prisons work (children’s edition) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate's money? EDIT: Also how about you read what you linked and the thread you are replying to. The conversation was about being in control of your assets while in prison. A revocable living trust is primarily used in estate planning to determine who will get your property when you die. Now can you explain how an inmate can use a revocable trust to bribe a politician into pardoning them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I present to you, Exhibit A: EDIT: I really underestimated how much hand-holding you’d need through this: READ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you even read what I said? You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate’s money? How much hand holding do you need? Reading comprehension much? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? Look, I get that you’re here to defend your boy. But if we can keep the goalposts in place where they belong, it’ll really help move things along to their logical conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? I did in the post you were replying to. I didn't move the goal post because I stated that at the very beginning. And I'm not defending anyone (I assume you meant Trump). What I've been trying to say is it is unlikely that Ross bribed Trump to get the pardon and it far more likely that Trump was fulfilling his campaign promise to the Libertarian party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate's money? EDIT: Also how about you read what you linked and the thread you are replying to. The conversation was about being in control of your assets while in prison. A revocable living trust is primarily used in estate planning to determine who will get your property when you die. Now can you explain how an inmate can use a revocable trust to bribe a politician into pardoning them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I present to you, Exhibit A: EDIT: I really underestimated how much hand-holding you’d need through this: READ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you even read what I said? You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate’s money? How much hand holding do you need? Reading comprehension much? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? Look, I get that you’re here to defend your boy. But if we can keep the goalposts in place where they belong, it’ll really help move things along to their logical conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? I did in the post you were replying to. I didn't move the goal post because I stated that at the very beginning. And I'm not defending anyone (I assume you meant Trump). What I've been trying to say is it is unlikely that Ross bribed Trump to get the pardon and it far more likely that Trump was fulfilling his campaign promise to the Libertarian party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I present to you, Exhibit A: EDIT: I really underestimated how much hand-holding you’d need through this: READ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you even read what I said? You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate’s money? How much hand holding do you need? Reading comprehension much? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? Look, I get that you’re here to defend your boy. But if we can keep the goalposts in place where they belong, it’ll really help move things along to their logical conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? I did in the post you were replying to. I didn't move the goal post because I stated that at the very beginning. And I'm not defending anyone (I assume you meant Trump). What I've been trying to say is it is unlikely that Ross bribed Trump to get the pardon and it far more likely that Trump was fulfilling his campaign promise to the Libertarian party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you even read what I said? You think a competent honest lawyer would risk their career doing something like bribing people with an inmate’s money? How much hand holding do you need? Reading comprehension much? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? Look, I get that you’re here to defend your boy. But if we can keep the goalposts in place where they belong, it’ll really help move things along to their logical conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? I did in the post you were replying to. I didn't move the goal post because I stated that at the very beginning. And I'm not defending anyone (I assume you meant Trump). What I've been trying to say is it is unlikely that Ross bribed Trump to get the pardon and it far more likely that Trump was fulfilling his campaign promise to the Libertarian party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? Look, I get that you’re here to defend your boy. But if we can keep the goalposts in place where they belong, it’ll really help move things along to their logical conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? I did in the post you were replying to. I didn't move the goal post because I stated that at the very beginning. And I'm not defending anyone (I assume you meant Trump). What I've been trying to say is it is unlikely that Ross bribed Trump to get the pardon and it far more likely that Trump was fulfilling his campaign promise to the Libertarian party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said anything about competency and honesty? I did in the post you were replying to. I didn't move the goal post because I stated that at the very beginning. And I'm not defending anyone (I assume you meant Trump). What I've been trying to say is it is unlikely that Ross bribed Trump to get the pardon and it far more likely that Trump was fulfilling his campaign promise to the Libertarian party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And I’m saying that people can absolutely move money from jail through lawyers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Lawyers or anyone that has power of attorney can make payments on your behalf. How do you think people pay mortgages or make payments in jail? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is literally NOT the definition of a lawyer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I never said it was. I specified who can make payments for you while you are serving time. The fact you think this can’t happen or that the prison has any involvement in this is really off edit: It should say Lawyers OR not ir perhaps that’s the confusion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You edited your comment from what it was. I was replying to the original comment where you said something like Power of attorney makes someone an attorney. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The edit explains my edit. I turned "ir" into "or". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is literally NOT the definition of a lawyer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I never said it was. I specified who can make payments for you while you are serving time. The fact you think this can’t happen or that the prison has any involvement in this is really off edit: It should say Lawyers OR not ir perhaps that’s the confusion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You edited your comment from what it was. I was replying to the original comment where you said something like Power of attorney makes someone an attorney. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The edit explains my edit. I turned "ir" into "or". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I never said it was. I specified who can make payments for you while you are serving time. The fact you think this can’t happen or that the prison has any involvement in this is really off edit: It should say Lawyers OR not ir perhaps that’s the confusion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You edited your comment from what it was. I was replying to the original comment where you said something like Power of attorney makes someone an attorney. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The edit explains my edit. I turned "ir" into "or". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You edited your comment from what it was. I was replying to the original comment where you said something like Power of attorney makes someone an attorney. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The edit explains my edit. I turned "ir" into "or". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The edit explains my edit. I turned "ir" into "or". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* Lawyers and setting up trust funds. Try this website: permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can’t see Trump is for sale? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I never said he wasn't. If I had the cash I would ask for favors too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then why would you think this is a conspiracy theory? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think that Ulbricht had the capability to bribe Trump. I think that Lemmy and Reddit users are trying to justify Trump's pardon by saying it was done through illegal activity (bribery) instead of campaign promises. That's why I say they are making up conspiracy theories. Now I believe he can be bribed because of all the felonies he got from issuing bribes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gotcha, I still think he got paid for this because Ross was in for hiring a hitman which is an odd thing for Trump to pardon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Actually he was never convicted for hiring a hitman. Check out some of these videos. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I never said he wasn't. If I had the cash I would ask for favors too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then why would you think this is a conspiracy theory? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think that Ulbricht had the capability to bribe Trump. I think that Lemmy and Reddit users are trying to justify Trump's pardon by saying it was done through illegal activity (bribery) instead of campaign promises. That's why I say they are making up conspiracy theories. Now I believe he can be bribed because of all the felonies he got from issuing bribes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gotcha, I still think he got paid for this because Ross was in for hiring a hitman which is an odd thing for Trump to pardon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Actually he was never convicted for hiring a hitman. Check out some of these videos. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then why would you think this is a conspiracy theory? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think that Ulbricht had the capability to bribe Trump. I think that Lemmy and Reddit users are trying to justify Trump's pardon by saying it was done through illegal activity (bribery) instead of campaign promises. That's why I say they are making up conspiracy theories. Now I believe he can be bribed because of all the felonies he got from issuing bribes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gotcha, I still think he got paid for this because Ross was in for hiring a hitman which is an odd thing for Trump to pardon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Actually he was never convicted for hiring a hitman. Check out some of these videos. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think that Ulbricht had the capability to bribe Trump. I think that Lemmy and Reddit users are trying to justify Trump's pardon by saying it was done through illegal activity (bribery) instead of campaign promises. That's why I say they are making up conspiracy theories. Now I believe he can be bribed because of all the felonies he got from issuing bribes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gotcha, I still think he got paid for this because Ross was in for hiring a hitman which is an odd thing for Trump to pardon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Actually he was never convicted for hiring a hitman. Check out some of these videos. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gotcha, I still think he got paid for this because Ross was in for hiring a hitman which is an odd thing for Trump to pardon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Actually he was never convicted for hiring a hitman. Check out some of these videos. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Actually he was never convicted for hiring a hitman. Check out some of these videos. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Soooo…. Do you not know what lawyers and trusts are and what they do? If not, have an adult explain these things to you when you can, and if so…. Why embarrass yourself wish such an ignorant comment? permalink fedilink source parent