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Proton is dead (for me). Let's collect and discuss alternatives! โœŠ๐Ÿ›ก (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago* by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[โ€“] 23 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

No, 88 is not a bad number. "88" is pronounced like "็™ผ็™ผ" in Taiwanese, which means 'making fortune'. And you might also see Taiwanese people using "168" in their usernames, as it has similar meaning.

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  • [โ€“] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    88 is typically used either on its own, or in full as 1488 by neo nazis and fascists. It's a dog whistle.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

    On its own, it can be used accidentally, such as if you have 88 in your username because you were born in '88, but if paired with other behavioral patterns it can become damning.

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  • [โ€“] 15 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Sure, it could be. I wasn't defending him.
    Just please don't think most of us using "88" or "888" for hinting Nazis, and "666" for praying Satan.

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Well, like anything, it depends on context. In this context, it's not crazy to be on high alert for weird politicized signals.

    However, I think you made a pretty good point about its meaning in Taiwan given that this fellow is apparently from there, combined with it being his year of birth. So, context decides and in this case at least it seems pretty ordinary.

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 2 years ago

    For sure. Context absolutely matters, ans the context here doesn't establish a pattern from my understanding. So in this case it's unlikely to be a dog whistle.

    But people should still be aware of what the 88/1448 dog whistle looks like.

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  • [โ€“] -2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Isn't it a bit... selfish for you to expect everyone everywhere know your fucking context? 88 means shit nothing in Europe and we've got the original Nazis here (except of course if you're Nazi - they know about 88, common people don't).

    Same with 666. Ask an Indian what it means and he will tell you one more than 665.

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 2 years ago

    I still think about that person who got banned from league for their name being Corona1488 and their last name was Corona and they were born on Jan 4th, 1988. I'm surprised they went so long without learning the connotations.

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  • [โ€“] 0 points 2 years ago

    I just uninstalled everything Proton on my PC. Wtaf.

    That is beyond a dog whistle, that's a Hunger Games whistle. I'd say it's practically a threat.

    We are actually living in the Rick & Morty back-to-back fascist timeline aren't we? Because I'm through being reasonable enough to give anyone the benefit of the doubt. That gave me chills.

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