▲ 775 ▼ Heritage Foundation plans to doxx and target Wikipedia editors (forward.com) submitted 2 years ago by dantheclamman@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 144 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) How would that function? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) A portal site which lists search results. Each result contains a list of definitions/entries - each from different instances. Editors from different instances can decide to agree with others at multiple levels (granularity), right down to a definition. It would probably be difficult to agree on paragraphs, but not impossible. Search results with a lot of "agreement" are showed at the top of the result list, while those with with no agreement are shown at the bottom. The agreement dynamics can already be seen in science between journals, articles, authors, even if it's less structured and formal. There are now search engines that use AI to measure an agreement/disagreement scale between papers (connected by citations). Obviously, there needs to be some way to validate, track, and mark the "bad faith" instances to push them down or out of the results entirely. And that way has to be based on a combination of expertise and reputation, not on universal vote counts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hazor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I like this idea in theory, but I think it would be easy for bad-faith actors to game the system. Expertise can be faked and reputation can be manipulated. Governments or other powerful/wealthy organizations could easily fund a large effort to shift agreement metrics toward their preferred narrative. We know Russia and China already have whole farms of people on social media trying to skew narratives and perceptions. Hell, I could see a tech-savvy individual distributing a software package to like-minded (or gullible) people in order to effectively automate the process of skewing the agreement metrics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago That sounds like it would require way more effort to maintain than the existing Wikipedia model. permalink fedilink source parent [–] underscores@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago There's the federated wiki software ibis started by lemmy's developers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) How would that function? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) A portal site which lists search results. Each result contains a list of definitions/entries - each from different instances. Editors from different instances can decide to agree with others at multiple levels (granularity), right down to a definition. It would probably be difficult to agree on paragraphs, but not impossible. Search results with a lot of "agreement" are showed at the top of the result list, while those with with no agreement are shown at the bottom. The agreement dynamics can already be seen in science between journals, articles, authors, even if it's less structured and formal. There are now search engines that use AI to measure an agreement/disagreement scale between papers (connected by citations). Obviously, there needs to be some way to validate, track, and mark the "bad faith" instances to push them down or out of the results entirely. And that way has to be based on a combination of expertise and reputation, not on universal vote counts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hazor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I like this idea in theory, but I think it would be easy for bad-faith actors to game the system. Expertise can be faked and reputation can be manipulated. Governments or other powerful/wealthy organizations could easily fund a large effort to shift agreement metrics toward their preferred narrative. We know Russia and China already have whole farms of people on social media trying to skew narratives and perceptions. Hell, I could see a tech-savvy individual distributing a software package to like-minded (or gullible) people in order to effectively automate the process of skewing the agreement metrics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago That sounds like it would require way more effort to maintain than the existing Wikipedia model. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) A portal site which lists search results. Each result contains a list of definitions/entries - each from different instances. Editors from different instances can decide to agree with others at multiple levels (granularity), right down to a definition. It would probably be difficult to agree on paragraphs, but not impossible. Search results with a lot of "agreement" are showed at the top of the result list, while those with with no agreement are shown at the bottom. The agreement dynamics can already be seen in science between journals, articles, authors, even if it's less structured and formal. There are now search engines that use AI to measure an agreement/disagreement scale between papers (connected by citations). Obviously, there needs to be some way to validate, track, and mark the "bad faith" instances to push them down or out of the results entirely. And that way has to be based on a combination of expertise and reputation, not on universal vote counts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hazor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I like this idea in theory, but I think it would be easy for bad-faith actors to game the system. Expertise can be faked and reputation can be manipulated. Governments or other powerful/wealthy organizations could easily fund a large effort to shift agreement metrics toward their preferred narrative. We know Russia and China already have whole farms of people on social media trying to skew narratives and perceptions. Hell, I could see a tech-savvy individual distributing a software package to like-minded (or gullible) people in order to effectively automate the process of skewing the agreement metrics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago That sounds like it would require way more effort to maintain than the existing Wikipedia model. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I like this idea in theory, but I think it would be easy for bad-faith actors to game the system. Expertise can be faked and reputation can be manipulated. Governments or other powerful/wealthy organizations could easily fund a large effort to shift agreement metrics toward their preferred narrative. We know Russia and China already have whole farms of people on social media trying to skew narratives and perceptions. Hell, I could see a tech-savvy individual distributing a software package to like-minded (or gullible) people in order to effectively automate the process of skewing the agreement metrics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago That sounds like it would require way more effort to maintain than the existing Wikipedia model. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] underscores@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago There's the federated wiki software ibis started by lemmy's developers. permalink fedilink source parent