A Cybertruck ‘blew up’ outside Trump’s hotel in Las Vegas

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[–] 227 points 2 years ago (49 children)

It’s still not clear what caused the fire

It's a Cybertruck.

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  • [+] 132 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (30 children)
  • [–] 73 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    It has a whole new set of flaws that result in the same outcome.

    Saw one in daylight for the first time yesterday. They're so big they don't fit in Costco's ridiculously oversized parking stalls.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    They're the size of a F150. Smaller actually.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Is that bad? (Actual question) I mean the f-150 is probably the most popular truck model ever. So I wouldn't think it's an unfavorable comparison.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    I don't think it's bad that its smaller than a F150. People like to harp on it though as if it's this massive monstrosity like OP without realizing it's the size of the most popular truck. I see F150's parked at Costco just fine all the time.

    Should all trucks be smaller? Sure, maybe, but I wouldn't really hold the CT's size against it. It's also much shorter than other trucks at least at the front which is better for safety in general (even if you think the Cybertruck isn't safe, being shorter is still safer). I've seen some trucks where their front flat grill is up to my neck. It's kinda ridiculous.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    The being made of steel and featuring sharp angles makes the whole 'being lower is safer point' moot. It would cut people in half if it hits them at speed.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    We'll have to see what the impact damage from that actually ends up being after collisions, but with the lower front and sloped hood/windshield, there's the possibility of a better chance of being maimed from the steel and thrown onto the windshield, than rammed into, knocked over, and then driven over by a flat high front.

    Some people would choose maimed over the more likely dead from the tall flat fronts. But some people might not want the maiming it will possibly do either.

    If it isn't enough to throw you onto the windshield though, then you'll be maimed AND run over ;)

    Edits for clarity, but also, I've wondered if this lower bumper is to reduce the SS impact and try to get you onto the hood? Also for all trucks with adjustable suspensions, I think a great pedestrian feature would be to drop the front immediately upon detection of imminent pedestrian impact. I don't know how fast they could lower it in an emergency, but any amount should help.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    It looked bigger, and given everything else about it the turn radius probably sucks too, so might as well be huge. I'd give credit if it was due, and was actually excited when Tesla first announced they'd do a truck...thinking of all the possibilities that everyone else thought. What we got was not that.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    In case you would miss an edit...

    Re: One of the best turning radius due to 4 wheel steering

    Turning Circle from Motor Trend

    F150 Lightning 48.0 ft

    Rivian 44.9 ft

    CT 43.5 ft

    Edit (not from MotorTrend but GMs site): Silverado EV - 42.16 ft (also has 4 wheel steering)

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    F-150 has a turning radius of 27.3 feet, length of 232 inches, width of 80 inches. Hummer EV has a turning radius of 37 feet, length of 206 inches, width of 93.7 inches Rivian R1T has a turning radius of 22.3 feet, length of 217 inches width of 81.8

    Cybertruck has a turning radius of 43.5 feet, length of 231 inches, width of 77 inches.

    Okay, so the length "advantage" it has over the F-150 is roughly 0.4% of their length.

    It is very slightly thinner than its competition, but its turning radius is 18% larger than its nearest competitor, which is the absolutely massive Hummer EV

    In compairson to the f-150, it is 60% larger, and only has a bed capacity of 52.2 cubic feet(within the roller door) compared to the F150s 52.8 cubic feet.

    Cybertruck bed capacity made from calculating the area of the bed that fits inside the roller door and tailgate.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    I think you might be mixing up units for the turning radius between the f150/rivian and the CT

    MotorTrend has the turning circle listed as

    F150 Lightning 48.0 ft

    Rivian 44.9 ft

    CT 43.5 ft

    Meanwhile the GM site says the Silverado EV is 42.16ft

    So your 2 numbers for F150/Rivian aren't the same measurement as the CT 43.5

    Edit: Also the size comparison wasn't about being an advatange or not, it was the person mocking the CT size when it was smaller than the countries best selling vehicle and favorite truck.

    Edit: And worth noting that the CT, Silverado and Hummer all have the better turning circles because of their 4 wheel steering. The hummer is 25 inches shorter, leading to its best score. The silverado is a couple inches longer, and has a tighter circle which is a nice job.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You can look up every review on youtube for the cybertruck and it has the absolute worst turning radius of the lot, and they show it actually failing. I stand by the numbers i found.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I mean yeah, it's pretty unlikely, or we'd probably have seen more of these fires already.

    My money is on the owner doing/transporting something stupid. Stupider than buying a cybertruck, I mean

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Well, it's certainly a different beast. Being a pickup, the chassis is higher off the ground than other teslas. The problem with other teslas was insufficient armor on the underbody, so road debris could puncture through the vehicle and damage batteries. On a pickup there's both more room for (essentially) an armor plate and any debris would have to punch much higher up.

    All and all, these kinds of battery fires should be much less likely to occur on a truck than on a sedan.

    Edit: Upon actually watching that press conference from the sheriff and fire marshall, it seems clear to me from the language they're using, that they're treating this explosion as likely an intentional act. And I have to say, there's a lot of damning evidence in that truck bed.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago*

    The battery pack also has a substantial amount of room between the bottom and the cells. It was so much, that at first people thought that was room for the double stack battery they had originally planned, but it turned out to not be enough space, and is just there to vent gas if cells catch on fire, and more room before a puncture during offroading can reach a cell.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago* (15 children)

    Well, that is funny.

    However the battery didn't explode, the truck bed was full of gasoline cans and fireworks.

    And the steel body of the truck bed actually did a great job of containing the explosion, focusing it mostly upward. The sheriff points out that the windows in the all glass front of that hotel weren't even shattered because the blast was so well contained by the truck.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    Yeah, teslas are quite good at keeping things inside during emergency situations.

    Like people.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    People in teslas back when they did regularly catch fire from hitting road debris had no trouble pulling over and getting out before fire got into the cabin

    They don't need electricity to open the doors, and owners should really tell passengers how to open the doors manually

    Search for whichever model's user manual for your country if you want to see how to open the doors

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Or, just hear me out, they could design the door so that people can intuitively figure out how to manually open the door in an emergency.

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  • [+] -12 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    When it's not an emergency the button to open the door is nice, and it's hardly ever an emergency. The manual opening is easy enough that knowing about it is enough

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    "It's hardly ever an emergency"

    Yeah, except for when it is.... dipshit.

    I'd like to introduce you, for the very first time it seems, to the inherent nature of emergencies in general. Sorry the adults in your life all failed you (as us in turn)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    Unmarked jokes about teslas don't seem to perform well here

    I actually own a Tesla 3 which has (like all 3s) no emergency release in the back, so I added glass breaking hammers both sides

    I do understand that emergency actions need to both easy and trained so a pull string in the door pocket isn't nearly as good as a handle and even better you don't need to tell every passenger how to get out when it's a lever rather than a button

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Not a good joke when comment is believable as 100% sincere from typical musk sycophant

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The joke was the bit about emergencies being uncommon

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Dude... you're exhausting. Your tesla rattles and is overall poorly made

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