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[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 97 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’m in management now but I say go get ‘em please. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 63 points 2 years ago (2 children) most management I would assume would be with the workers. If your not c suite your nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) Tech is a bit different because a significant portion of your compensation comes as stock when you get higher up the ladder but yeah. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 2 years ago (2 children) Stock options and grants are a tool to trick you into accepting lower pay and conflating your interests with those of the capital class. (Speaking as someone who has received both!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 4 points 2 years ago Yeah I'm speaking from experience here in that about a third of my pay is in stock. I wouldn't say my pay is low though, for what it's worth. permalink fedilink source parent [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 2 years ago Yeah I would say that is high enough but its pretty up there for stock to be all that significant. permalink fedilink source parent [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 point 2 years ago yeah I get that. Im unemployed currently but I know that my rate is much higher than the large majority of folks so I feel kinda guilty in a way but at the same time I have a sickly wife and our household income puts us in the average. My ability to earn more just offsets her inability to earn one. Of course though medical expenses make our expenses higher and as I looked for work I went through the excersise to see how much I needed to make and it just blows me away mainly because medical expenses are a third of the budget. as high as housing although we have about as cheap a housing situation as someone could have nowadays. We have such a topsy turvy crazy society were one can go from being comfortable to destitute or vice versa at practically the drop of a hat but the direction and pressures are downward. Ugh. I do find middle managers tend to work relative to metrics they want to look good and they want the people under them to focus on them. the people under them usually just want to have their stuff working and to clearly know which thing to concentrate on and higher levels also looking to have stuff working but from a larger perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 63 points 2 years ago (2 children) most management I would assume would be with the workers. If your not c suite your nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) Tech is a bit different because a significant portion of your compensation comes as stock when you get higher up the ladder but yeah. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 2 years ago (2 children) Stock options and grants are a tool to trick you into accepting lower pay and conflating your interests with those of the capital class. (Speaking as someone who has received both!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 4 points 2 years ago Yeah I'm speaking from experience here in that about a third of my pay is in stock. I wouldn't say my pay is low though, for what it's worth. permalink fedilink source parent [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 2 years ago Yeah I would say that is high enough but its pretty up there for stock to be all that significant. permalink fedilink source parent [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 point 2 years ago yeah I get that. Im unemployed currently but I know that my rate is much higher than the large majority of folks so I feel kinda guilty in a way but at the same time I have a sickly wife and our household income puts us in the average. My ability to earn more just offsets her inability to earn one. Of course though medical expenses make our expenses higher and as I looked for work I went through the excersise to see how much I needed to make and it just blows me away mainly because medical expenses are a third of the budget. as high as housing although we have about as cheap a housing situation as someone could have nowadays. We have such a topsy turvy crazy society were one can go from being comfortable to destitute or vice versa at practically the drop of a hat but the direction and pressures are downward. Ugh. I do find middle managers tend to work relative to metrics they want to look good and they want the people under them to focus on them. the people under them usually just want to have their stuff working and to clearly know which thing to concentrate on and higher levels also looking to have stuff working but from a larger perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] huginn@feddit.it 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) Tech is a bit different because a significant portion of your compensation comes as stock when you get higher up the ladder but yeah. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 2 years ago (2 children) Stock options and grants are a tool to trick you into accepting lower pay and conflating your interests with those of the capital class. (Speaking as someone who has received both!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 4 points 2 years ago Yeah I'm speaking from experience here in that about a third of my pay is in stock. I wouldn't say my pay is low though, for what it's worth. permalink fedilink source parent [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 2 years ago Yeah I would say that is high enough but its pretty up there for stock to be all that significant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 2 years ago (2 children) Stock options and grants are a tool to trick you into accepting lower pay and conflating your interests with those of the capital class. (Speaking as someone who has received both!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 4 points 2 years ago Yeah I'm speaking from experience here in that about a third of my pay is in stock. I wouldn't say my pay is low though, for what it's worth. permalink fedilink source parent [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] huginn@feddit.it 4 points 2 years ago Yeah I'm speaking from experience here in that about a third of my pay is in stock. I wouldn't say my pay is low though, for what it's worth. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 2 years ago Yeah I would say that is high enough but its pretty up there for stock to be all that significant. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 point 2 years ago yeah I get that. Im unemployed currently but I know that my rate is much higher than the large majority of folks so I feel kinda guilty in a way but at the same time I have a sickly wife and our household income puts us in the average. My ability to earn more just offsets her inability to earn one. Of course though medical expenses make our expenses higher and as I looked for work I went through the excersise to see how much I needed to make and it just blows me away mainly because medical expenses are a third of the budget. as high as housing although we have about as cheap a housing situation as someone could have nowadays. We have such a topsy turvy crazy society were one can go from being comfortable to destitute or vice versa at practically the drop of a hat but the direction and pressures are downward. Ugh. I do find middle managers tend to work relative to metrics they want to look good and they want the people under them to focus on them. the people under them usually just want to have their stuff working and to clearly know which thing to concentrate on and higher levels also looking to have stuff working but from a larger perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 point 2 years ago yeah I get that. Im unemployed currently but I know that my rate is much higher than the large majority of folks so I feel kinda guilty in a way but at the same time I have a sickly wife and our household income puts us in the average. My ability to earn more just offsets her inability to earn one. Of course though medical expenses make our expenses higher and as I looked for work I went through the excersise to see how much I needed to make and it just blows me away mainly because medical expenses are a third of the budget. as high as housing although we have about as cheap a housing situation as someone could have nowadays. We have such a topsy turvy crazy society were one can go from being comfortable to destitute or vice versa at practically the drop of a hat but the direction and pressures are downward. Ugh. I do find middle managers tend to work relative to metrics they want to look good and they want the people under them to focus on them. the people under them usually just want to have their stuff working and to clearly know which thing to concentrate on and higher levels also looking to have stuff working but from a larger perspective. permalink fedilink source parent