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[–] 86 points 2 years ago (24 children)

tbf the nyc subway is extremely convoluted and unintuitive to use compared to more civilized metros, lots of arcane rules like "only the first 3 cars can fit in this station so if you want to get off there you better remember where in the train you are" or "trains with prime numbers only stop at every other station during rush hour" which are never posted anywhere. It's like the least beginner-friendly metro of any on earth, even ones where the beginner doesn't speak the local language.

that said it's still not that hard, you buy a ticket, you try to get on the right train, and worst-case you end up 20 blocks away from your destination and try again

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    transit apps have trivialized all of this

    you don't even need a Metrocard anymore!

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Any system designed for the general population that's so complicated you need an app navigate it is a bad system.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You don't need an app, it just removes the entire learning curve. Honestly it's three systems that were kludged together, and some parts are a century old. It should be better, but it's understandable for what it is.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    “only the first 3 cars can fit in this station so if you want to get off there you better remember where in the train you are”

    Not once in the 40 years I lived in NYC has this happened to me.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    maybe it was construction-related, if the intercom worked I might've been able to hear what the conductor was trying to say about it instead of a garbled static version of the teacher's voice in charlie brown

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    "trains with prime numbers only stop at every other station during rush hour"

    Shirley you can't be serious?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    It's not nearly as bad as this but yes NYC has this concept of "express" trains that skip stations during rush hours even when it's the same train line, and it can be very confusing even if you've taken any other metro on earth.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    every western transit designer should be required by law to visit one or more major east asia cities to see how they do it. I've been a few places in taiwan, RoK, japan and even as a non-local language speaker the transit was super easy to use. lots of colour coding on paths to guide you around and signage was really good too. this was 10+ years ago now but these cities definitely set the bar to me. I'm curious what modern transit looks like in mainland china, I've never been.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Having lived in NYC, I completely agree, but Boston would like to have a word.

    I was craving the clarity and forward thinking that the MTA has compared to the MBTA.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Oh yeah the T is garbage, but the difference is Bostonians don't pretend it's anything other than a straight-up dumpster fire. It's also substantially easier to figure out than whatever tf is happening with the NYC subway. Plus they've at least been experimenting with fare-free service.

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