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Democratic strategists are still patting themselves on the back for a catastrophic defeat.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ideologically similar candidates dropped out of a race and put their support behind someone ideologically similar when it became apparent that they were splitting support. Once they did that support of the voters coalesced behind Biden. Not sure why people think that’s so strange.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Putting aside how primaries are really not like team sports, I think that you have to admit that it was the DNC (or, charitably, the candidates) that chose Biden to remain in the race, rather than the voters. My whole point is that voters have had little say in the DNC primaries. That is what is strange. Voters should drive candidate selection, rather than just "coalesce".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who said it was like team sports?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Ideologically similar candidates dropped out of a race and put their support behind someone ideologically similar when it became apparent that they were splitting support

ie, like a team

You brought up how the candidates seemed to view the contest in more of an us vs. them, or team competition, sort of way. This isn't how primaries typically work. Primaries are typically contests of individuals. Sorry if that was unclear enough that I had to explain it to you.

Anyway, the point is that the voters didn't decide on Biden so much as Biden was decided for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

The candidates coalesced around sucking the corporate cock.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Anyway, the point is that the voters didn’t decide on Biden so much as Biden was decided for them.

Dude every primary has worked the same since the early 1950's. The early states always have much more influence than the later states.

Should all states vote at the same time? Yes probably so. But it likely made no difference. You still had the chance to vote for whoever you like, regardless of when your primary was.

Who the hell would be dumb enough not to vote for Bernie just because earlier voters chose Biden?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sorry that I keep posting and delete or edit. I think we’re talking past each other for whatever reason so it isn’t particularly useful to keep making arguments.

Our differences aside I hope you have a good day :)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

, I think that you have to admit that it was the DNC (or, charitably, the candidates) that chose Biden to remain in the race, rather than the voters

That is not the slightest bit how things actually work. The DNC literally does not have any such power.

You know the DNC is not a person right?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Biden received nearly twice as many votes as Bernie. Before Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropped out Biden had received more votes than them combined. Seems like voters did choose.