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The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July. All told, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaners say Biden’s win was not legitimate, up from 63% earlier this year and through last fall, even as there is no evidence of election fraud that would have altered the outcome of the contest.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that the only metric?

I voted for him in '16, same with my pa. Does someone have to be a 'never trumper' to be reasonable? I'm in the PNW too, I've seen a handful of Trump Trucks, but despite being from a more rural area (you know there are a lot of conservative pockets in the PNW), there isn't this widespread support of Trump, from what I've seen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You must not get out much. Spend any amount of time in WA-3 and you'll see car dealerships running still running "TRUMP 2020, FUCK INSLEE" on their signs, tons of FJB flags flying from pickups, and knock-off Trump apparel in stores.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You must not get out much.

I'm pretty confident I'm very well traveled around the state, much more than the average Washingtonian.

Spend any amount of time in WA-3

Oooooh so you mean I must not be well traveled in this specific district you're talking about? Yeah, not that much, but the times I have traveled down that way to portland, the coast or other areas out there is what I was talking about seeing some Trump Trucks.

I do love that sign though, driving down I5 about inslee, that cracks me up every time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm glad you're easily entertained. That's not the specific sign I was referring to, though, but thank you for adding additional examples, thus strengthening my point.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but thank you for adding additional examples, thus strengthening my point.

I don't get why you're acting like this is a fight you need to win. I said I'm from rural WA and don't see many Trump Trucks. That's a fact. You then told me that means I don't get out much? Which is an absurd conclusion based on one sentence of communication.

I didn't say there weren't any trump supporters, look back at my first comment. What I said is it's baffling to me because that trumper culture isn't prevelant out here, you're here saying 'well if you go to this specific district, in this area, there's this sign at this dealership' doesn't mean there's a big trump culture in washington.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry for only providing three quick examples instead of listing off everything I see across the PNW daily. Should I keep notes and send you weekly updates so as to prove my point?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there's a big trump culture, where are the rallies out here? Where are the protests? Trumpers are known for protesting liberal areas they don't like, where are the protests in bellingham regarding drag events at schools?

You've listed one area where you see some Trump trucks and signs. That doesn't prove that there's a big trump culture out here.There's 33% of Washington adults that call themselves republicans, where is the Trump culture that you're talking about? A couple signs? come on man. Prove your point or move on, don't get pedantic saying 'hey, go to this city in this road and on fridays there's a trump truck by a trump sign. If you wait for the new moon, you might see two trump trucks!'

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Homie, like 3 of those were from 2018, a couple from 2020.

The most recent article, which is from an reasonable 2022, is in Oregon, your AP source is Oregon, too. Another you linked is in Boise.

You're trying really hard to prove your point, but all you've done is dig up 5 year old articles of a couple hundred Trump supporters in different states.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Remember when I said PNW at the start, and that's what you took exception to? And please read what I wrote below the links to address your first concern.

But hey, since you keep shifting the goal posts, it's evident you're not wanting to have an actual conversation about this.