Musks culture has infiltrated SpaceX to warrant us to make some of those assumptions on the engineers that have currently stayed. Yes they've made accomplishments in actual propulsion engines but they've overpromised and underdelivered. Worse yet, on public linked posts from SpaceX team leads were spreading pro Russia anti NATO Muskaganda, completely unprofessional and it was praised by some dude I knew from my college who has been working there for a few years now. Their culture is trash and deserves to be ridiculed, and it's because of Musk influence.

Seriously? Did you just feign outrage for all those employees who blew up 5 billion in taxpayers dollars? The ones who jump up and down cheering like deranged cult members each time one of their rockets blows up, excited they received a Participation ribbon for coming in dead last?

You do realize SpaceX will never make it to the moon, much less Mars, right? I will never understand how people can watch Musk lie, OVER AND OVER, about his solar tiles, his Boring bullshit, his Hyperpoop, his full-self driving lies year after year after YEAR, but somehow think SpaceX is not run the same way, with the same lies.

SpaceX employees know they are designing shite, and they are just there for the paycheck. So yeah, much respect.

EDIT: Should we even discuss Leuders granting them the contract, then leaving NASA to work for SpaceX? SpaceX has missed EVERY SINGLE benchmark, every single deadline. Again, they were supposed to get us to the moon for 3B, and they are at 5B and can't get an EMPTY rocket into orbit. SpaceX is out of govt money, but that won't be a problem anymore, will it?

Seriously. I have no love for Musk, but what the Space X team has accomplished is incredible. Wait until that guy finds out how much the SLS has cost so far, lmao.

Maybe but they've got me interested in how this actually compares to nasa from a financial perspective.

They support him and therefore are each collectively guilty of his actions.