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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I've done what I feel is a pretty good job ignoring US election (canadian here), but the liberal head loss over this I sadly cannot ignore. Otherwise reasonable people acting as if the world has ended when this man has already been president ? Some of the same people who agreed with me that KKKamala is not in any capacity a "harm reduction" vote acting as if martial law has just been declared or some shit ? Maybe I'm just the disagreeable asshole but I just find this behavior sad.

Obviously fuck Trump should go without saying how pathetically shitty that dude is but I mean come on. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have been murdered and terminally wounded under the democrats, not trump. Roe v Wade was overturned under the democrats, not Trump. We have witnessed one of the most acute transfers of wealth to the ultra rich under the dems, not the republicans. The war in the Ukraine started and was goaded on under Biden's admin, not Trump.

I'm not trying to say in any sense that things will get a single iota better with republicans in office but I feel like I'm taking crazy pills seeing the reactions online and from people I would consider to be rational individuals. They might even be right that these things will get worse under another Trump admin more quickly or in different ways than if Kamala won, but still I find the reaction to it ridiculous.

Not that any american needs to or should care about my opinion considering I'm relatively removed from the situation but like, am I being unempathetic or unreasonable ?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Yeah I'm in a similar space as a Canadian. Stayed relatively offline until a couple hours ago and now it's official lol. I empathize with your growing sense of detachment from American politics and what helped me come to grips with that is recently is learning that America has the most frequent elections of any country in the whole world. It's baked into their culture. They go through this cycle every 4 years like clockwork, as their constitution mandates.

The reactions both before and after the 2016 one were EXACTLY like this. Same talking points, same willful ignorance of all the horrible bullshit the incumbent dem admin did like Biden blowing up Nordstream, helping complete the border wall, deliberately stalling/defusing 1/6 investigations, aiding and abetting the Palestinian genocide, stoking the Ukraine war, shrugging at all the SCOTUS rulings rather than just packing it like the GOP did...

It's just going to be so painful and cringe to see all their fantasies about muh concentration camps and cancelled elections not come true and see them do all of this AGAIN in 2028, probably with fucking Kumla again.

I guess to get to your concern, if you're being unempathetic than I definitely am too for whatever that is worth. I used to be willing to live and let live for americans who voted for whomever because I didn't see meaningful difference and because I thought they were simply misled, but after being personally insulted and attacked and sneered at by Americans who tell you to butt out as a non-American when you stop toeing the DNC line, I kind of just said fuck 'em. I think they deliberately make the choice of "genocide over there vs over here" and dress it up with pride stickers and memes and twitter posts and Parks & Rec screenshots to make themselves feel better about only giving a shit about American lives. I'm just emotionally divesting from American politics and focusing on things that can actually help prepare me. It helps to remember that they do this every 2 goddamn years and it's not the end of the world.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not only do they do it every two years, they take a year to do it! It's one year on, one year off. One year off is not enough time away from the tedium for the mind to recover.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's less than a year off. It feels that way anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

It's 24/7 with them and has been for literally centuries. I'm just gonna start telling them that we international observers are just plain fuckin bored of this after watching the US government get away with murder every single day, year after year regardless of whose ass is sitting in the oval office signing off on all of it.

Also, if they really truly believe that the Day of the Rope is going to come any day now then why do none of them ever own guns or organize or make any kind of plans beyond checking a box and threatening to go ~~colonize~~ move to other countries? It's almost like deep down they know it's all kafabe.

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