I highly doubt the left will do anything uncivil. How can they win back the country? Is it too late?

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[–] 41 points 2 years ago (22 children)

It's been "too late" for 'mericans to "win back the country" for a couple of decades at least. I mean, the entire electoral/voting system needs to be redone from the ground up because it's very non-democratic.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    If Trump won the electoral college but not the popular vote I'd say it is.non-Democratic. But he won the popular vote too. So half the country are just self destructive.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    People don't vote because they see the system is rigged so the popular vote isn't a great standard to go by either, it's a product of the system as well

    If you had 100% turnout the popular vote would be very different.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    People don’t vote because they see the system is rigged so the popular vote isn’t a great standard to go by either, it’s a product of the system as well

    My area is such a strong republican district that my vote is functionally irrelevant aside from the president. Hell, they didn't even bother with democrat candidates on a local level.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    There were no good options. And that’s because of the electoral system.

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  • [+] -17 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    I'm sorry, you're looking at these results and seeing too little democracy in play?

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Yes. The Dems lost this election more than the Reps won it.

    And no, it's not just Harris. It's the fact they haven't accomplished anything substantially changing the lives of people for dozens of years, and they fought more against people like Sanders than people like Cheney.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago*

    Doesn't help that you have old hags like Nancy Pelosi refusing to relinquish any power and pass the torch to someone younger. People shouldn't have to wait for you to die to take the reigns.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The ACA never happened in your mind?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    The ACA, which brought US healthcare from an 18th century level to a 19th century one in 2010, was a half measure under Obama, he got reelected for it, he was president for 7 more years after he signed that.

    First time voters today were 4 years old when it happened. What else has the Democratic Party been doing? How about the housing crisis? How about inflation? Oh, they got that one 1400 USD stimmy check passed after Trump looted the coffers for corpos big and small.

    Look, I'm not saying Harris wasn't the better, less destructive choice. I'm saying something had had to happen, and people didn't turn out for a candidate who said the past four years and the way the world is going is good. Not as well as for someone who saw problems and proposed - admittedly monstrous and ineffective - solutions.

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