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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 144 points 2 years ago (1 child)

It’s because the measure needed 60% to pass, and “only” managed 57.4%..

..tyranny of the minority reins in Florida.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Also, the governor practiced some pretty aggressive voter intimidation. Cops straight up knocking on supporters doors. Dude is scum.

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

No, nothing confusing, it was just designed to fail by the state. Amendments take a 60% supermajority in Florida. This bill only got 57%.

Fuck the will of the people!

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[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

They should take a page from Oklahoma...

Medical marijuana passes at around 55%... "Okay. The people have spoken. Guess we're doin' marijuana now."

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

No, no, that would be too democratic. Listening to the outcome of an election sounds like some communist bullshit.

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[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

The right listens to the will of the people when it favors them. Otherwise it's all cheating and rigged.

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

Well, they and many of their foreign friends do a ton to manufacture the will of the people as well. When wages have stagnated for 50 years and housing gets more expensive, it's easy to convince idiots that "a break from tradition" is the cause of their woes rather than corporate greed. Because criticizing corporate greed is communism, and we've wired into our society that it's "america vs communism" which really just means "america for corporations"

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 38 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

It’s such an outlier compared to even other conservative states with similar ballot measures.

It's not an outlier. The difference is:

the measure required a 60% supermajority to pass

Florida got 57.4% in favor.
Kansas's amendment passed with 59.16%
Ohio's amendment passed with 56.6%. (And a couple months earlier, we rejected an "emergency" amendment in a special election to require a 60% majority for all future amendments)

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[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago

Yep, that’s what I was missing. Thanks for the clarification.

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[–] Zak@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Florida is a solidly red state in which Trump is winning by a 13 point margin with most of the votes counted. The amendment has 57% to Trump's 56.2% at the time of this comment.

Some states require a simple majority, but Florida's ballot measures require 60%.

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Gotta love those Pro-Choice/Trump votes.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That's what people don't understand. Pro-choice isn't a single-issue vote whereas pro-life is. That's why the GOP embraces the pro-lofe movement. They don't give the slightest damn about "unborn children" - they just want those sweet, sweet, guaranteed voters.

An abortion-rights centered campaign is general election poison because the pro-lofe voters will all vote against it, and the pro-choice voters aren't single-issue voters.

Look at it this way: if Trump were pro-choice and Harris were pro-life, but the candidates were otherwise unchanged, how many leftists would flip their vote to Trump? Because millions of pro-life voters would flip.

And this is made even worse when abortion is also its own separate item on the ballot, completely negating any sliver of advantage that could possibly be gained by a candidate by making abortion a central issue, since any right-leaning pro-choice voter can have it both ways.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

You should have seen the non stop ads for the pro life movement....blatant lies and fear mongering. I don't understand how that level of misinformation is legal to put in an ad.