Now if only they could more clearly communicate when games are playable offline.

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[+] -129 points 2 years ago (22 children)

Gamers don’t care

If Valve was against this then they would block them from their store. This is avoiding legal consequences

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  • [–] 171 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    """gamers""" aren't a monolith

    Some people clearly care bc they are currently discussing it

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Well to be fair, we're like 1% of all gamers. Most gamers don't give a flying fuck and will gladly buy these products anyway. So the companies don't really have much incentive to give a shit.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    That's why it's a big disturbing banner where most gamers don't understand the text but know that big disturbing banner is bad. Will it affect the sales? Not at all. But it will raise the problem(mostly Linux anticheat) to the higher standing people in the gaming companies than before because now they require those top level managers to make a decision is it big disturbing banner or Linux anticheat.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I highly doubt this will do anything at all to sales. But I'm just guessing. Maybe it will. Hopefully! But I still applaud the change by Valve. I think it's great.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't think the point is to do anything on sales. Valve profit from sales. It's to raise the problem so now the managers have to decide on a scale how much they abuse the players. Before it wasn't even a problem, now it's Valve: "maybe you shouldn't wink wink"

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    Another “to be fair” - what do y’all reckon is the proportion of gamers who could define kernel? (not rhetorical)

    Edit: maybe not as good as a question as how many have any opinion on kernel-level anticheat, since you don’t need to be able to define kernel to be against the anti-cheat if you’ve heard it slows down games

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  • [+] -44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    “””gamers””” aren’t a monolith

    That’s why some people discussing it aren’t going to do anything to dissuade the practice

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    Games have been buried in negative reviews for less. We can't tell in advance.

    But implying you know, and can speak for all people who play games is just bafflingly ignorant and conceited.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's fair: most probably don't.

    I appreciate a 'this won't work in Linux no matter what you do' banner on things, though.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I've been using some browser plugins for Steam that add ProtonDB information to each Store page, it's a useful thing to have. It may even make sense to leave it as a plugin, since many Windows users won't care.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    You speak for an entire demographic. How do you get that role?

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  • [+] -20 points 2 years ago (5 children)
  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Not enough observation to read this room aye.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    I don’t care what the minority of people here say

    The most popular games use kernel anti cheat, kids think cheating is bad. And very few people even know what a kernel is, they will just think it means “cheating is impossible” even though it doesn’t do that at all

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You care enough to reply again.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    It would be rude not to reply to someone who is as curious as you

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  • Fair enough.

    For what it’s worth if you’re happy with anti-cheat at the kernel level then crack on. If I don’t trust corporations with that level of access then that’s also fine.

    This isn’t something I would ever install in my system and the two games I play Minecraft and Factorio both don’t have this issue so I’m not missing out by not playing COD 8928384 or whatever popular games use this.

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