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[+] LostXOR@fedia.io 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) 0 m/s as not moving. Well, technically... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If the earth rotates but the object doesnt does it move? If the object remains still in space but the earth moves away from it, does it move? permalink fedilink source parent [–] owsei@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* Every decision is arbitrary in some way. We, as humans, defined it would be better to arrange the periodic table a certain way, based on characteristics of the elements, but the characteristics chosen are arbitrary. We could've just chosen a different set for ordering, like alphabetical. Tho, that's a correct (IIRC) yet weird usage of "arbitrary", and since language exists to talk, not to be correct, we might as well not use this definition of arbitrary and stick to what conveys information better. Edit: I'm wrong! perhaps "correct" was the word I meant to say, not sure tho. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -25 points 2 years ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago Zero kelvin is very contextually useful. Put very simply it literally relates to the motion of atoms. At zero, they move zero. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) What? What context? The scale is the same as Celsius which is derived from the properties of water. And 0K is when there is absolutely no heat energy in the thing being measured. There is no context where this is not the case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -23 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Being condescending actually doesn't help a conversation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 8 points 2 years ago* People don't use Kelvin when referring to seasons. Sure, there's plenty of ambiguity if someone says it's 32° out without specifying the units, and you can infer from context, but that has nothing to do with Kelvin starting at absolute zero. Saying "degrees" immediately rules out Kelvin as a unit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stembolts@programming.dev 12 points 2 years ago The context of.. reading the fabric of the universe? You're right, that is totally irrelevant to.. a physicist. I see you're trolling, so I look forward to your condescending response, but to be successfully condescending you have to be at least somewhat convincing in displaying intelligence, if you can manage that then this whole argumentative act will go much better and people will get much angrier. TLDR, Try the same troll tactic but with less incompetence for better results. permalink fedilink source parent [–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Halving something requires a scale... permalink fedilink source parent [–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The scale doesn't matter, double is always double. No matter if expressed in 1m is half of 2m, or 3ft is half of 6ft. Same is true for temperature, als long as the zero point is fixed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Double is a scale in itself, it assumes the first thing as 1 and the second thing as 2. The are no other scales needed when I say something is double the other thing. The other thing is the scale here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) 0 m/s as not moving. Well, technically... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If the earth rotates but the object doesnt does it move? If the object remains still in space but the earth moves away from it, does it move? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If the earth rotates but the object doesnt does it move? If the object remains still in space but the earth moves away from it, does it move? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] owsei@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* Every decision is arbitrary in some way. We, as humans, defined it would be better to arrange the periodic table a certain way, based on characteristics of the elements, but the characteristics chosen are arbitrary. We could've just chosen a different set for ordering, like alphabetical. Tho, that's a correct (IIRC) yet weird usage of "arbitrary", and since language exists to talk, not to be correct, we might as well not use this definition of arbitrary and stick to what conveys information better. Edit: I'm wrong! perhaps "correct" was the word I meant to say, not sure tho. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -25 points 2 years ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago Zero kelvin is very contextually useful. Put very simply it literally relates to the motion of atoms. At zero, they move zero. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) What? What context? The scale is the same as Celsius which is derived from the properties of water. And 0K is when there is absolutely no heat energy in the thing being measured. There is no context where this is not the case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -23 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Being condescending actually doesn't help a conversation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 8 points 2 years ago* People don't use Kelvin when referring to seasons. Sure, there's plenty of ambiguity if someone says it's 32° out without specifying the units, and you can infer from context, but that has nothing to do with Kelvin starting at absolute zero. Saying "degrees" immediately rules out Kelvin as a unit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stembolts@programming.dev 12 points 2 years ago The context of.. reading the fabric of the universe? You're right, that is totally irrelevant to.. a physicist. I see you're trolling, so I look forward to your condescending response, but to be successfully condescending you have to be at least somewhat convincing in displaying intelligence, if you can manage that then this whole argumentative act will go much better and people will get much angrier. TLDR, Try the same troll tactic but with less incompetence for better results. permalink fedilink source parent [–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Halving something requires a scale... permalink fedilink source parent [–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The scale doesn't matter, double is always double. No matter if expressed in 1m is half of 2m, or 3ft is half of 6ft. Same is true for temperature, als long as the zero point is fixed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Double is a scale in itself, it assumes the first thing as 1 and the second thing as 2. The are no other scales needed when I say something is double the other thing. The other thing is the scale here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago Zero kelvin is very contextually useful. Put very simply it literally relates to the motion of atoms. At zero, they move zero. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) What? What context? The scale is the same as Celsius which is derived from the properties of water. And 0K is when there is absolutely no heat energy in the thing being measured. There is no context where this is not the case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -23 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Being condescending actually doesn't help a conversation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 8 points 2 years ago* People don't use Kelvin when referring to seasons. Sure, there's plenty of ambiguity if someone says it's 32° out without specifying the units, and you can infer from context, but that has nothing to do with Kelvin starting at absolute zero. Saying "degrees" immediately rules out Kelvin as a unit. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -23 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Being condescending actually doesn't help a conversation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 8 points 2 years ago* People don't use Kelvin when referring to seasons. Sure, there's plenty of ambiguity if someone says it's 32° out without specifying the units, and you can infer from context, but that has nothing to do with Kelvin starting at absolute zero. Saying "degrees" immediately rules out Kelvin as a unit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Being condescending actually doesn't help a conversation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 8 points 2 years ago* People don't use Kelvin when referring to seasons. Sure, there's plenty of ambiguity if someone says it's 32° out without specifying the units, and you can infer from context, but that has nothing to do with Kelvin starting at absolute zero. Saying "degrees" immediately rules out Kelvin as a unit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stembolts@programming.dev 12 points 2 years ago The context of.. reading the fabric of the universe? You're right, that is totally irrelevant to.. a physicist. I see you're trolling, so I look forward to your condescending response, but to be successfully condescending you have to be at least somewhat convincing in displaying intelligence, if you can manage that then this whole argumentative act will go much better and people will get much angrier. TLDR, Try the same troll tactic but with less incompetence for better results. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Halving something requires a scale... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The scale doesn't matter, double is always double. No matter if expressed in 1m is half of 2m, or 3ft is half of 6ft. Same is true for temperature, als long as the zero point is fixed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Double is a scale in itself, it assumes the first thing as 1 and the second thing as 2. The are no other scales needed when I say something is double the other thing. The other thing is the scale here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Double is a scale in itself, it assumes the first thing as 1 and the second thing as 2. The are no other scales needed when I say something is double the other thing. The other thing is the scale here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Double is a scale in itself, it assumes the first thing as 1 and the second thing as 2. The are no other scales needed when I say something is double the other thing. The other thing is the scale here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
