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I refuse defeatism (slrpnk.net)
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[–] -1 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

The correct thought... Wow, you solved the climate.

Sorry for being sarcastic. This take has been proven wrong for... forever? Humankind will not fix anything - we will do too little too late and suffer through the consequences as we always did.

I'm not saying it's not worth a try. I'm saying it won't work because not everyone is trying. By far not everyone.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Not everyone is as clever as you. Most people need hope in order to get motivated to take action. Being able to try your hardest without any hope based motivation is the sign of an iron will. It's very rare. You should tell all the less exceptional people to have hope, because that's how you get them to do things.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Those less exceptional people can fuck off. I have watched them mindlessly destroying our ecosphere for over 40 years now, and they are unstoppable in doing so (at least unstoppable by other humans; nature and physics will bite their ass, that's for sure).

    The reason why I don't believe anything relevant will change: I've seen it. I'm a lifelong ecological activist (started in my early teens in the wake of Club of Rome; I'm nearing 60 now). Did a lot of activist stuff, always voted or volunteered for the green(er) parties, lead a local committee promoting preservation of nature and wildlife, tried to introduce carsharing in my community in the early 90s (boy, were they unready for that), live and promote a frugal lifestyle, no flights, no car, small flat, go around on my bike and on public transport, keep meat consumption low, wear out my stuff, etc.

    And yes, there were changes in public, too. The people knew and know everything about those problems, the talk is all over the media, they get it crammed in their faces, ecology is a huge part of education and it even became a part of the lifestyle.

    So I had hope, and I believed in solutions and in a change. And you know what? It all kept getting worse, and worse: It all KEEPS getting worse. Humans are not thinking ahead, they consume mindlessly. They are idiots, and when they will realise that we did too little too late then it really will be too late. It already is too late for most of humankind. (It's in the physics of the problem, closed system etc.)

    And you know what? I'm fine with that. They want it, they get it.

    Sorry for drowning you in my rant. I'm bitter about the kids. We could have had it all and given them a nice working world, and instead we opted for the SUV and the cheap flights to be more important.

    Those less exceptional people can fuck off. They can so fuck off.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    If you're convinced they're so inferior, then how does letting them die make more sense than manipulating them into doing what you want? You know what they should be doing. They should be saving the world. If you're better than them, then be a leader. Tell them what they need to hear to do the right thing. Genocide is much less fun than domination.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Try thinking on longer timescales. Even if you're resigned to the fact things aren't going to get better in your lifetime, it might bring you some comfort to know that possibilities remain for a brighter future. Even if all of civilization collapses and humanity is reduced to a few survivors struggling in a few isolated regions, that can grow into something beautiful. Acknowledging that also means acknowledging that what you do in the present might contribute to the survival of a group of people, a way of life, a wealth of knowledge, or anything that is important to you.

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