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If you don't pay money for something, you are the product. In this case it would be your net flow data. It's not a good idea to use a free service if you're worried about privacy
you're not the product on tor/orbot, protonVpn and riseUp.
I stand by what I said. If you examine who supports those organizations, they are getting a benefit.
The US Navy supports tor more than anybody else. Not to mention all of the government-run exit notes. Now you're the product here, is the product watching your data? Or is the product providing noise for their clandestine operations? Tor is a great thing, 100%, but it is being supported by people who get a benefit from it.
I'm sure you can find a counter example, but the point is it's about incentives. If the incentives aren't aligned you can't trust it. Not for mission critical objectives
what about the riseup and proton example he mentioned ? services like bitwarden etc are free but i don't see the users getting exploited in any way .
riseUp is slow. free vpn of Proton, depending on traffic and your exit, is a lot faster. Proton proved themselves to be trustable.
you can always upgrade to their paid service to have more options and servers, if you like. You can download your configurations to use your choice of addOn, app, software
mullVpn also is considerable, if you're going to pay (i don't use it but I've heard/read only + views
i use tor and orbot regularly. There, sadly, are too many sites that block them by default :/