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You always hear the phase “9 to 5” and also the song with the same name. Assuming you include 1 hour worth of breaks (30 minute lunch and two 15 minute breaks), you’re only working for 7 hours a day which comes up to 35 hours a week.

Now it feels like you have to work 8 hours a day (for a total of 40 hours of actual work), plus your other time off meaning you’re really there for 9 hours each day (for a total of 45 hours). Am i looking at that wrong, or did expected times change, and if so, when?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

Where are you working where you are expected to work through your breaks? 9-5 should include your break times as well, yes.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm Canadian myself but isn't this illegal? In Canada we have a labor program where you can file a complaint if it comes to that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Depends on the state. But the reality is you need to hire a lawyer to fight it and we already have to choose between a roof and food most of the time so good luck with that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That sucks, sorry to hear that. I honestly thought the US had a similar thing as well. I guess that explains the huge push for more unions across the US over the past few years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

They have it really bad over there. My understanding is most European countries would laugh at Canadian labour law, but Canada laughs at the US's.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Oh I'm sure you can FILE a complaint here too.

Doesn't mean anybody gives a shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In Canada full time is whatever an employer decides it is, not 35h, not even 40h. In Quebec an employer isn't required to give 15mins break. But if they do they must be paid. The 30mins lunch break is mandatory, but also unpaid. You've just gotten lucky with decent employers/union jobs. I'd imagine other provinces are similar.

https://www.cnesst.gouv.qc.ca/en/working-conditions/work-schedule-and-termination-employment/work-schedule/presence-work-breaks-and-weekly-rest-period

An employer is under no obligation to offer breaks but when a break is granted, it must be paid and be included in the calculation of the hours worked.

After 5 consecutive hours of work, a worker is entitled to a 30-minute meal break, without pay. If the worker is required to remain at their workstation during this time, their meal break must be paid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In British Columbia our labor laws were basically written by EA so tech workers have almost no protection against overtime unless it's contiguous - the only hard limit on working is once you hit 32 continuous hours you must be given time off... BC high tech employees are exempt from any overtime and the only limit they still get is that they must be given eight hours off every day - but that's eight hours not working, not necessarily eight hours of sleep. So you could be asked to work 32 continuous hours then be sent home with a forty-five minute drive, get home, sleep for six and a half hours (or try to) then get back in your car to drive back to the office to work another sixteen hours.

If you objected to this schedule you could quit but you'd have no legal recourse to sue your employer.

Oh, and in the above three day scenario (home for eight, work for thirty two, home for eight, work for sixteen) you'd be paid the same if you worked for twenty four hours over three days.

BC tech workers have no rights.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Depends on the Province I think. Where I'm at you're entitled to 30 min off (unpaid) within the first 5 hours, and another within 8 if you're working longer than 8 hours. 15 min breaks are not mandated except that if the company gives you them they must be paid.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'd guess too. In central and eastern Europe, 7 to 3 is the norm but nobody pronounces it that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Probably the US, specifically. Most of America has unions, except the US has all but made actual unions illegal

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