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[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (17 children)

Quick digging: source appears to be a reddit post from LA that is light on details. This is voter fraud if true but a grain of salt is warranted I believe.

Here's a pic of the back, according to the Reddit poster: https://imgur.com/y9XaKlr

[–] [email protected] 99 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Assuming someone or some group of people are actually putting these in mailboxes to try to trick people, this is multiple federal felonies. It’s election fraud, and it’s a felony to tamper with a mailbox, mail fraud, I would guess conspiracy to commit fraud, and perhaps more.

If true, I sincerely hope someone’s doorbell camera catches them in the act.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Depends. I feel like the fact that the packaging doesn't explicitly state anything about using it for election mail is their loophole to say they never intended to trick anyone.

It's so thinly-veiled it's disgusting...but the courts are still stacked by Trump appointees who will let his supporters get away with nearly anything.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fair point.

Ok, so why did you distribute these?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

And that's the argument that would have to be decided in court. But with the conservative bias in judicial outcomes and the "guilty beyond reasonable doubt" prerequisite for determining felony status, I am not holding out much hope that anyone will actually see jail time for this. I don't even know if this would get to the point where there'd be a trial, to be honest.

People get unsolicited mail all the time, and as long as the sender paid their postage, the government typically doesn't give a shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

They could just be posting about it on social media? I feel like even that would be enough to dissuade some people to put their ballot in the mail.

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