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We'll have a long memory as things get worse for working class Americans, minorities and women (lemmy.world)
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[+] -7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Ranked choice voting is still first past the post... There is still only one winner, the results aren't spread proportionally. Ranked choice voting can give even bigger majorities with even fewer votes. Since you have only 2 real parties, it won't change much in the US.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You're conflating "voting for a single-seat position" with any method of vote counting. There's only ever one winner if there's one seat, but there are better ways of counting votes than first-past-the-post. At least with ranked-choice, more people are happy with the outcome because the winner might be their second preferred option.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm not the one who mixes them up... The one I replied to was presenting RCV as a panacea that would help with this party voting when in fact it entrenches the most popular party and remove most chances of other party to ever win an election.

    If you want smaller parties to win, RCV isn't the solution, you need proportional representation. You can combine both though, but that's not what was implied in the comment that I replied to.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    ...no, ranked choice prevents the spoiler effect, and therefore allows you to vote for candidates you are actually interested in without risk.

    This would allow people to vote for 3rd parties without worry, and would destroy the two party system eventually.

    You have no idea what you're talking about, and that's not what first past the post means.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Your understanding of Ranked Choice voting, and what the point of it is, seems to be missing a big chunk right there in the middle...

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No, nothing in ranked choice voting says that it becomes proportional representation. Ranked choice voting in the same first past the post system still stays first past the post. If you want proportional representation, it's not it.

    This is a debated topic where I live. Our current PM would love ranked choice voting because it would solidify their position, kill most changes of a conservative victory and eliminate any chance of most other parties to have a meaningful impact on the government. That's why he abandoned the electoral reform because every commity and experts said that it would be way worse for democracy.

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