▲ 973 ▼ Google's New Web Environment Integrity Proposal Dismissed by Brave, Mozilla, and Vivaldi (news.itsfoss.com) submitted 3 years ago by nils@feddit.de to c/technology@beehaw.org 106 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 33 points 3 years ago (1 child) Then what's this? https://httptoolkit.com/blog/apple-private-access-tokens-attestation/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 years ago (4 children) A part of Apple’s long term, multi-stage deployment to phase out passwords entirely. They announced it last year during WWDC and said it will be messy and not without hurdles, but they’re committed to having strong cryptography without need for password at all. Related: https://www.wired.com/story/apple-passkeys-password-iphone-mac-ios16-ventura/ A far cry from what Google is trying to do or their long term plans (we all know Google is trying to siphon more ad revenue). Google’s proposition is as bad for Apple as it is for the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] that_one_guy@beehaw.org 27 points 3 years ago (1 child) Honest to god doublethink right here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago It's crazy when I see it. And I see it far too often these days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 13 points 3 years ago Passkeys (which are broader than just Apple) and this are not related at all. Regardless, Apple absolutely has interest in controlling browsers. Hell, they already do it on iOS, where you can't use any rendering engine other than theirs. The only reason they might be against this is because they feel they can't control it the way they want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago Curious how this push comes after fairly set standards that passwords can't be compelled permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 3 years ago* I don't think it's related at all. You can implement passwordless technologies like FIDO2 and Webauthn without browser attestation. A far cry from what Google is trying to do or their long term plans It's literally very similar technology though, and none of us know Apple's long-term plans for it. It's well-known in the digital ad industry that Apple are trying to increase the size of their ad network. Locking down tracking (app tracking transparency) is also advantageous to them as it only applies to third parties - Apple can still track users. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 years ago (4 children) A part of Apple’s long term, multi-stage deployment to phase out passwords entirely. They announced it last year during WWDC and said it will be messy and not without hurdles, but they’re committed to having strong cryptography without need for password at all. Related: https://www.wired.com/story/apple-passkeys-password-iphone-mac-ios16-ventura/ A far cry from what Google is trying to do or their long term plans (we all know Google is trying to siphon more ad revenue). Google’s proposition is as bad for Apple as it is for the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] that_one_guy@beehaw.org 27 points 3 years ago (1 child) Honest to god doublethink right here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago It's crazy when I see it. And I see it far too often these days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 13 points 3 years ago Passkeys (which are broader than just Apple) and this are not related at all. Regardless, Apple absolutely has interest in controlling browsers. Hell, they already do it on iOS, where you can't use any rendering engine other than theirs. The only reason they might be against this is because they feel they can't control it the way they want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago Curious how this push comes after fairly set standards that passwords can't be compelled permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 3 years ago* I don't think it's related at all. You can implement passwordless technologies like FIDO2 and Webauthn without browser attestation. A far cry from what Google is trying to do or their long term plans It's literally very similar technology though, and none of us know Apple's long-term plans for it. It's well-known in the digital ad industry that Apple are trying to increase the size of their ad network. Locking down tracking (app tracking transparency) is also advantageous to them as it only applies to third parties - Apple can still track users. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] that_one_guy@beehaw.org 27 points 3 years ago (1 child) Honest to god doublethink right here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago It's crazy when I see it. And I see it far too often these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago It's crazy when I see it. And I see it far too often these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 13 points 3 years ago Passkeys (which are broader than just Apple) and this are not related at all. Regardless, Apple absolutely has interest in controlling browsers. Hell, they already do it on iOS, where you can't use any rendering engine other than theirs. The only reason they might be against this is because they feel they can't control it the way they want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago Curious how this push comes after fairly set standards that passwords can't be compelled permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 3 years ago* I don't think it's related at all. You can implement passwordless technologies like FIDO2 and Webauthn without browser attestation. A far cry from what Google is trying to do or their long term plans It's literally very similar technology though, and none of us know Apple's long-term plans for it. It's well-known in the digital ad industry that Apple are trying to increase the size of their ad network. Locking down tracking (app tracking transparency) is also advantageous to them as it only applies to third parties - Apple can still track users. permalink fedilink source parent