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There are many who choose not to celebrate until the Orange One has had "actual repercussions".
Me? Well...
To each their own. 🥂🍻🍸🍷
Yep, I get why some would be pessimistic after years of nothing happenning to the man, but this is kinda it. I mean, what else do people expect, no due process and straight to prison? This is the worst actual outcome for him right now, and possibly the best for America. I figure he could be considered a flight risk and be put in jail pending process, but I figure this would be a worst outcome for America, considering his deathcult. You're 2 fox news articles away from them claiming be died in jail and resurrected like Jesus.
Honestly if he fled to russia and a bunch of his followers followed him, godspeed
For me, he has to either die, or be banned from holding any political position again.
The level of incredibly pissed me off.
He's garbage, and needs to be treated as such.
The Jan 6 stuff might not stick, and even if it does his supporters have plenty of mental hoops they can jump through to justify.
Those classified documents though... he ain't getting out of any of those. He fucked up big time with that bullshit. He's going down for it hard.
It's about more than Jan 6. It's about an attempt to replace the electoral college with phonies. Jan 6 was just the most public part of the plan.
To each their own indeed. If you want see this as cause to celebrate who am I to rain on your parade, I truly hope you have the right of it.
I'm just exhausted from all of the "final nail in the coffin"s this guy has had. Ive gotten excited for some actual justice just to be disappointed 1 too many times I guess. Even now, any federal charges are gonna just get pardoned as the first act of the next republican president for some quick and easy brownie points amongst their base.
The only hope for lasting consequences is realistically Georgia and even ignoring that they are pretty deeply purple, the Secret Service has pretty explicitly said they will not allow Trump to go to prison.. Now I personally am of the belief that they can pound sand since they have no jurisdiction over this. However I do not get to make the call, and as stated above I have been let down too many times..
Maybe this is actually it and maybe I'm just too jaded and not seeing the big picture.. I just can't bring myself to be optimistic anymore man
Woah woah woah woah, did they say this? A cursory Google search only came back with results stating he won't lose their protection in prison, not that they won't allow him to be put away.
As I have the right to celebrate all the recent unprecedented actions by DOJ (I must concede that DOJ dragged their feet on a lot of this, and that it's pretty clear there's a two-tiered system for the rich "important" types and the rest of us plebs), you certainly have the right to doubt that this all will lead to anything significant. I have nothing to support my belief that the Orange One has finally reached the "FO" stage of FAFO but the indictments that have occurred thus far. However, I will say with confidence that these indictments aren't entirely meaningless (particularly the docs case), and that their unprecedented nature should be celebrated. The DOJ has taken steps that have literally never been taken before in our history as a country (the indictment of a former president), and while some might say justice delayed is justice denied, I still think that a slow response is better than no response at all.
That all said, I understand feeling skeptical or even hopeless at this point (I certainly felt that way after Impeachment Trial 2). Here's hoping, though, that we'll at least get to witness justice finally being served and that any pardons will be moot (I mean, c'mon, the guy's old!) if a Republican president is elected again any time soon!
It's possible I'm misremembering. I thought in their initial statement about his not losing protection while incarcerated they had mentioned that it would be impossible to protect him while he's in an open cell block but perhaps that was my dumb lizard brain saying the quiet part out loud. Either way I don't think they would just let that happen without significant uproar.
Idk maybe I can allow myself to feel an ounce of optimism. I do like the idea of something actually good happening for once lol
It just means that IF he manages to get found guilt, and that is a BIG if, he will not go into prison like you or I think of it. He will get some sort of special consideration as part of some sweetheart deal to be confined to house arrest in Mara-la-go except for "special supervised outings related to ex-president business". Which will really just turn out to be whenever he wants to go somewhere.
So he will be convicted, but functionally it will only be on paper and just a technicality. All because no one is going to want to deal with the real world outcomes of an ex-president being sentenced to real hard time like not as well connected people.
But I will be shocked if they can find 12 jurors that a good lawyer on either side would not be able to argue are truly impartial to even have a valid trial to begin with.
I just keep imagining that he's currently crying into a big mac right now. "Do you think they have Diet Coke in prison?"
“MY HAMBERDERS!!!! 😭”
Lets celebrate both now and then 🍸 🍹 🥂 🍾
¡Salud! 🍾