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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (47 children)

This particular person is from .ml but honestly I've seen this kind of rhetoric popping up a lot recently on Hexbear and it's frustrating.

If you have hatred and contempt in your heart for all religious people, you hate and despise the global proletariat.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (24 children)

hatred and contempt

This is a problem. Anything coming from hatred is not coming from a good place.

However, I do have a problem with what monotheism did to the world as a colonising force.

We have depictions of full genocide in the Torah due to a chosen people doctrine (remember, at this time gendercide was nearly the exclusive form of genocide). We had Christians take this after Constantine to take a proselytising mission and turn it into an imperial casus belli. We saw the same with the formation and expansion that lead to the Golden Age of Islam.

While religious tolerance and practices have an increased amount of personal choice now in the "Western" world, that does not mean that the institution that they inherent aren't any more colonial now then they were then. They are ideas that replaced other ideas, often through a theology of "god strengthens my arm and weakens the heathens, so might makes right".

It's not hatred for any set belief, but the "In" and "Out" groups created by "chosen people" dynamics that are inherent within monotheistic religion. They have always been used to perpetuate division among the "foreign", wealth for an elite, and loyalty from the masses.

[Edited to clarify the last paragraph]

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Okay, to be clear, in the discussion you're jumping into, one of the interlocutors has stated that Jews are inherently genocidal.

I'm an atheist and I don't particularly value religion but I do value people and there are many good people who do value their religion and I won't stand for them being painted as inherently genocidal and neither should you.

There's a time and place for nuance but I don't know that this is it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I'm saying the entire structure of monotheism has created a system of colonial thought and destruction across much of the world. Even the good theists I have met (and I have met many) will think less of or sorry for someone in the out group.

It's not Judaism, it's not Islam, it's not Christianity: it is the colonial ideology embedded in these ideologies that I'm saying are a negative force on the planet.

I was replying directly to the comment above, not so much the context. You are right to point that out.

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