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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 104 points 2 years ago (4 children) AI is the ultimate Enshitification of the world. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) Maybe the digital world. We could always go back to living in the real world I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frissondepisse@midwest.social 15 points 2 years ago* oh no i hate that place. i'm scared permalink fedilink source parent [–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Things easily could be better for the vast majority of us in the present day, but let's not forget how shit we were in the past as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago ClosedAI. Or maybe MircroAI? permalink fedilink source parent [–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago LLMs, maybe. Most AI is useful permalink fedilink source parent [+] Dkarma@lemmy.world -18 points 2 years ago (2 children) I love how ppl who don't have a clue what AI is or how it works say dumb shit like this all the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) I also love making sweeping generalizations about a stranger's knowledge on this forum. The smaller the data sample the better! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The base comment was very broad permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is no AI. It’s all shitty LLM’s. But keep sucking that techbro cheesy balls. They will never invite you to the table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Honest question, but aren’t LLM’s a form of AI and thus…Maybe not AI as people expect, but still AI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The issue is that "AI" has become a marketing buzz word instead of anything meaningful. When someone says "AI" these days, what they're actually referring to is "machine learning". Like in LLMs for example: what's actually happening (at a very basic level, and please correct me if I'm wrong, people) is that given one or more words/tokens, it tries to calculate the most probable next word/token based on its model (trained on ridiculously large numbers of bodies of text written by humans). It does this well enough and at a large enough scale that the output is cohesive, comprehensive, and useful. While the results are undeniably impressive, this is not intelligence in the traditional sense; there is no reasoning or comprehension, and definitely no consciousness, or awareness here. To grossly oversimplify, LLMs are really really good word calculators and can be very useful. But leave it to tech bros to make them sound like the second coming and shove them where they don't belong just to get more VC money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but people seem to buy into that very buzz wordyness and ignore the usefulness of the technology as a whole because "ai bad." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) True. Even I've been guilty of that at times. It's just hard right now to see the positives through the countless downsides and the fact that the biggest application we're moving towards seems to be taking value from talented people and putting it back into the pockets of companies that were already hoarding wealth and treating their workers like shit. So usually when people say "AI is the next big thing", I say "Eh, idk how useful an automated idiot would be" because it's easier than getting into the weeds of the topic with someone who's probably not interested haha. Edit: Exhibit A permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago There's some sampling bias at play because you don't hear about the less flashy examples. I use machine learning for particle physics, but there's no marketing nor outrage about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) No, they are auto complete functions of varying effectiveness. There is no “intelligence”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Almost as if it's artificial. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, Mr Donning Kruger, it’s nice to meet you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago There you go, talking into the mirror once more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) Maybe the digital world. We could always go back to living in the real world I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frissondepisse@midwest.social 15 points 2 years ago* oh no i hate that place. i'm scared permalink fedilink source parent [–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Things easily could be better for the vast majority of us in the present day, but let's not forget how shit we were in the past as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frissondepisse@midwest.social 15 points 2 years ago* oh no i hate that place. i'm scared permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Things easily could be better for the vast majority of us in the present day, but let's not forget how shit we were in the past as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago ClosedAI. Or maybe MircroAI? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago LLMs, maybe. Most AI is useful permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Dkarma@lemmy.world -18 points 2 years ago (2 children) I love how ppl who don't have a clue what AI is or how it works say dumb shit like this all the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) I also love making sweeping generalizations about a stranger's knowledge on this forum. The smaller the data sample the better! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The base comment was very broad permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is no AI. It’s all shitty LLM’s. But keep sucking that techbro cheesy balls. They will never invite you to the table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Honest question, but aren’t LLM’s a form of AI and thus…Maybe not AI as people expect, but still AI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The issue is that "AI" has become a marketing buzz word instead of anything meaningful. When someone says "AI" these days, what they're actually referring to is "machine learning". Like in LLMs for example: what's actually happening (at a very basic level, and please correct me if I'm wrong, people) is that given one or more words/tokens, it tries to calculate the most probable next word/token based on its model (trained on ridiculously large numbers of bodies of text written by humans). It does this well enough and at a large enough scale that the output is cohesive, comprehensive, and useful. While the results are undeniably impressive, this is not intelligence in the traditional sense; there is no reasoning or comprehension, and definitely no consciousness, or awareness here. To grossly oversimplify, LLMs are really really good word calculators and can be very useful. But leave it to tech bros to make them sound like the second coming and shove them where they don't belong just to get more VC money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but people seem to buy into that very buzz wordyness and ignore the usefulness of the technology as a whole because "ai bad." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) True. Even I've been guilty of that at times. It's just hard right now to see the positives through the countless downsides and the fact that the biggest application we're moving towards seems to be taking value from talented people and putting it back into the pockets of companies that were already hoarding wealth and treating their workers like shit. So usually when people say "AI is the next big thing", I say "Eh, idk how useful an automated idiot would be" because it's easier than getting into the weeds of the topic with someone who's probably not interested haha. Edit: Exhibit A permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago There's some sampling bias at play because you don't hear about the less flashy examples. I use machine learning for particle physics, but there's no marketing nor outrage about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) No, they are auto complete functions of varying effectiveness. There is no “intelligence”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Almost as if it's artificial. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, Mr Donning Kruger, it’s nice to meet you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago There you go, talking into the mirror once more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) I also love making sweeping generalizations about a stranger's knowledge on this forum. The smaller the data sample the better! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The base comment was very broad permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The base comment was very broad permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is no AI. It’s all shitty LLM’s. But keep sucking that techbro cheesy balls. They will never invite you to the table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Honest question, but aren’t LLM’s a form of AI and thus…Maybe not AI as people expect, but still AI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The issue is that "AI" has become a marketing buzz word instead of anything meaningful. When someone says "AI" these days, what they're actually referring to is "machine learning". Like in LLMs for example: what's actually happening (at a very basic level, and please correct me if I'm wrong, people) is that given one or more words/tokens, it tries to calculate the most probable next word/token based on its model (trained on ridiculously large numbers of bodies of text written by humans). It does this well enough and at a large enough scale that the output is cohesive, comprehensive, and useful. While the results are undeniably impressive, this is not intelligence in the traditional sense; there is no reasoning or comprehension, and definitely no consciousness, or awareness here. To grossly oversimplify, LLMs are really really good word calculators and can be very useful. But leave it to tech bros to make them sound like the second coming and shove them where they don't belong just to get more VC money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but people seem to buy into that very buzz wordyness and ignore the usefulness of the technology as a whole because "ai bad." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) True. Even I've been guilty of that at times. It's just hard right now to see the positives through the countless downsides and the fact that the biggest application we're moving towards seems to be taking value from talented people and putting it back into the pockets of companies that were already hoarding wealth and treating their workers like shit. So usually when people say "AI is the next big thing", I say "Eh, idk how useful an automated idiot would be" because it's easier than getting into the weeds of the topic with someone who's probably not interested haha. Edit: Exhibit A permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago There's some sampling bias at play because you don't hear about the less flashy examples. I use machine learning for particle physics, but there's no marketing nor outrage about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) No, they are auto complete functions of varying effectiveness. There is no “intelligence”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Almost as if it's artificial. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, Mr Donning Kruger, it’s nice to meet you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago There you go, talking into the mirror once more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Honest question, but aren’t LLM’s a form of AI and thus…Maybe not AI as people expect, but still AI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The issue is that "AI" has become a marketing buzz word instead of anything meaningful. When someone says "AI" these days, what they're actually referring to is "machine learning". Like in LLMs for example: what's actually happening (at a very basic level, and please correct me if I'm wrong, people) is that given one or more words/tokens, it tries to calculate the most probable next word/token based on its model (trained on ridiculously large numbers of bodies of text written by humans). It does this well enough and at a large enough scale that the output is cohesive, comprehensive, and useful. While the results are undeniably impressive, this is not intelligence in the traditional sense; there is no reasoning or comprehension, and definitely no consciousness, or awareness here. To grossly oversimplify, LLMs are really really good word calculators and can be very useful. But leave it to tech bros to make them sound like the second coming and shove them where they don't belong just to get more VC money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but people seem to buy into that very buzz wordyness and ignore the usefulness of the technology as a whole because "ai bad." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) True. Even I've been guilty of that at times. It's just hard right now to see the positives through the countless downsides and the fact that the biggest application we're moving towards seems to be taking value from talented people and putting it back into the pockets of companies that were already hoarding wealth and treating their workers like shit. So usually when people say "AI is the next big thing", I say "Eh, idk how useful an automated idiot would be" because it's easier than getting into the weeds of the topic with someone who's probably not interested haha. Edit: Exhibit A permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago There's some sampling bias at play because you don't hear about the less flashy examples. I use machine learning for particle physics, but there's no marketing nor outrage about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) No, they are auto complete functions of varying effectiveness. There is no “intelligence”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Almost as if it's artificial. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, Mr Donning Kruger, it’s nice to meet you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago There you go, talking into the mirror once more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The issue is that "AI" has become a marketing buzz word instead of anything meaningful. When someone says "AI" these days, what they're actually referring to is "machine learning". Like in LLMs for example: what's actually happening (at a very basic level, and please correct me if I'm wrong, people) is that given one or more words/tokens, it tries to calculate the most probable next word/token based on its model (trained on ridiculously large numbers of bodies of text written by humans). It does this well enough and at a large enough scale that the output is cohesive, comprehensive, and useful. While the results are undeniably impressive, this is not intelligence in the traditional sense; there is no reasoning or comprehension, and definitely no consciousness, or awareness here. To grossly oversimplify, LLMs are really really good word calculators and can be very useful. But leave it to tech bros to make them sound like the second coming and shove them where they don't belong just to get more VC money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but people seem to buy into that very buzz wordyness and ignore the usefulness of the technology as a whole because "ai bad." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) True. Even I've been guilty of that at times. It's just hard right now to see the positives through the countless downsides and the fact that the biggest application we're moving towards seems to be taking value from talented people and putting it back into the pockets of companies that were already hoarding wealth and treating their workers like shit. So usually when people say "AI is the next big thing", I say "Eh, idk how useful an automated idiot would be" because it's easier than getting into the weeds of the topic with someone who's probably not interested haha. Edit: Exhibit A permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago There's some sampling bias at play because you don't hear about the less flashy examples. I use machine learning for particle physics, but there's no marketing nor outrage about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but people seem to buy into that very buzz wordyness and ignore the usefulness of the technology as a whole because "ai bad." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) True. Even I've been guilty of that at times. It's just hard right now to see the positives through the countless downsides and the fact that the biggest application we're moving towards seems to be taking value from talented people and putting it back into the pockets of companies that were already hoarding wealth and treating their workers like shit. So usually when people say "AI is the next big thing", I say "Eh, idk how useful an automated idiot would be" because it's easier than getting into the weeds of the topic with someone who's probably not interested haha. Edit: Exhibit A permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago There's some sampling bias at play because you don't hear about the less flashy examples. I use machine learning for particle physics, but there's no marketing nor outrage about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) True. Even I've been guilty of that at times. It's just hard right now to see the positives through the countless downsides and the fact that the biggest application we're moving towards seems to be taking value from talented people and putting it back into the pockets of companies that were already hoarding wealth and treating their workers like shit. So usually when people say "AI is the next big thing", I say "Eh, idk how useful an automated idiot would be" because it's easier than getting into the weeds of the topic with someone who's probably not interested haha. Edit: Exhibit A permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago There's some sampling bias at play because you don't hear about the less flashy examples. I use machine learning for particle physics, but there's no marketing nor outrage about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago There's some sampling bias at play because you don't hear about the less flashy examples. I use machine learning for particle physics, but there's no marketing nor outrage about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) No, they are auto complete functions of varying effectiveness. There is no “intelligence”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Almost as if it's artificial. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, Mr Donning Kruger, it’s nice to meet you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago There you go, talking into the mirror once more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Almost as if it's artificial. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, Mr Donning Kruger, it’s nice to meet you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago There you go, talking into the mirror once more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago There you go, talking into the mirror once more. permalink fedilink source parent