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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (13 children)

I personally think it is a very bad idea to "speed run development" of protocols. This will only lead to broken designs which will then cause each desktop top do things differently.

Wayland protocol development is slow and heavily debated in order to make sure everyone is happy implementing them. You want all desktop to use the same spec and this could lead to additional desktop specific protocols which would totally break compatibility.

In short, this is a really bad idea and should be rejected by everyone

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I personally think it is a very bad idea to “speed run development” of protocols.

Stalling the development of protocols for nearly a decade is bad, too.

They should talk and meet somewhere between “Just develop in production!” and “I personally dislike it for non-technical reasons, so I will block it for everyone!”

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The problem is that you could end up with protocols that certain desktops don't want to implement.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That already happens constantly and I'd consider this the consequence of it, rather than the cause. You can only issue so many vetoes before people no longer want to deal with you and would rather move on.

The recent week of Wayland news (including the proposal from a few hours ago to restate NACK policies) is starting to feel like the final attempt to right things before a hard fork of Wayland. I've been following wayland-protocols/devel/etc from the outside for a year or two and the vibes have been trending that way for a while.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No one will use a fork of Wayland. That would be suicide. The Wayland project will continue no matter what other things people are working on. I can see a separate project forming but it strongly doubt it will have any traction.

If you recall back to the days of the yearly internet people said the same thing about TCP/IP

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

No one will use a fork of Wayland. That would be suicide.

Famous last words ...

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