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I didn't click the link because I don't want to give them views. Unlimited WHATABOUTISM replies when you point out the United States is currently dealing with Bird Flu, Listeria, and more covid variants because Americans won't mask, vaccinate, or quarantine.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (13 children)

What ended up happening with that? IIRC, old sewage samples from Italy from well before Covid is known to have been present in China had Covid in them right?

It seems crazy that such a thing would be shoved under the rug.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (11 children)

It wasn't really shoved under a rug it was reported by many mainstream sources. All the report says is that covid was found in wastewater in 2 Italian towns in December 2019, before any cases were reported in China. That isn't really a smoking gun that it started in Italy, as December 2019 was also before Italy reported any cases.

What it indicates is that it was likely spreading before people knew it was a thing, which is interesting but shouldn't be that surprising for a novel infectious disease.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

I guess I'm just not sure why if it was in both China and Italy in December '19, everyone is so sure it started in China? Like the reason people think it started in China is that that's where it was first detected right?

EDIT: I don't even believe it didn't come from China, because if this line of reasoning was correct, I'd expect China to have pointed it out more (in the vein of "The moon landing wasn't fake because it was, the Soviet Union would have said something"), but I'm just not sure why it's wrong.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it was reported in spain waste water in march 2019

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Okay I think this may have been the one I was thinking of

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