▲ 210 ▼ What Ticketmaster Doesn't Want You To Know: Concerts Were Cheap For Decades (youtu.be) submitted 2 years ago by db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/aboringdystopia@mander.xyz 34 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] voracitude@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (14 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I was going to say that stopping buying tickets obviously won't prevent them from going up even if it does temporarily but then you said it yourself in the last paragraph. You can't take away monopoly power without government action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So in this case you're saying concert tickets are a right that the government must enforce? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Wut permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I keep saying things like this on lemmy and catching hate. "Video games companies are fucking us!" "Have you considered not buying their games?" "FUCK YOOOUUUU!" If I have a non-essential product, I'm selling it for every penny I can wrench out of the public (idiots). Hell, even with food you got options. I'm on the edge of a little redneck suburb and have 7 grocery stores within 10-miles. I vote with my wallet at the rundown places that are half the price of Publix. I won't begrudge Publix's ludicrous pricing, I just won't go. Hey guys: If you are paying for this shit, you are the problem, not the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 0 points 2 years ago (8 children) these kind of boycotts have never really worked to impact lasting change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) They don't work because concert tickets are still under valued. If an artist can sell out a 9,000 person venue at $20 a seat, and then they find out they can still sell out the same venue charging $200 a seat - just to a different crowd, then they are going to go with the $200 option. I love going to concerts and now that I'm older I mostly avoid General Admission tickets, so I'm already paying more. This year I've gone to 6 concerts and on average I've paid around $120 per ticket. While expensive, I've never felt like what I paid wasn't worth it. But, when it comes to beer/water/food I always feel that it's over priced and not worth the cost. Don't get me started on the employee asking for a 20% tip on a $20 beer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Watch the video. Neither the artist nor the venue have any real say on the matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Artists absolutely do have a say on the matter, they can say no. They can not tour. They can only do small venues that don't use Live Nation. They can use other ticketing services - although the most expensive concert I went to this year was Rolling Stones and they didn't use Ticketmaster. Artists choose to go with Live Nation because it makes them money, provides a better ticketing experience for their fans, and gives the artist a boogeyman to blame for high ticket costs. Pearl Jam tried to fight this fight in the 90s and realized that there isn't a better alternative if they wanted to tour and make money. They chose to keep touring and went back to using Ticketmaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] -2 points 2 years ago No. You're wrong. Watch the video. permalink fedilink source parent [+] voracitude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) People who can't afford it are already not going. That's why their CEOs are comparing concerts to luxury handbags. You're still appealing to emotion of those who can afford it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voracitude@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] -1 points 2 years ago And this is why boycott like his don't do shit. Capitalist brainworms man, I'll tell ya... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I was going to say that stopping buying tickets obviously won't prevent them from going up even if it does temporarily but then you said it yourself in the last paragraph. You can't take away monopoly power without government action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So in this case you're saying concert tickets are a right that the government must enforce? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Wut permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So in this case you're saying concert tickets are a right that the government must enforce? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Wut permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I keep saying things like this on lemmy and catching hate. "Video games companies are fucking us!" "Have you considered not buying their games?" "FUCK YOOOUUUU!" If I have a non-essential product, I'm selling it for every penny I can wrench out of the public (idiots). Hell, even with food you got options. I'm on the edge of a little redneck suburb and have 7 grocery stores within 10-miles. I vote with my wallet at the rundown places that are half the price of Publix. I won't begrudge Publix's ludicrous pricing, I just won't go. Hey guys: If you are paying for this shit, you are the problem, not the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 0 points 2 years ago (8 children) these kind of boycotts have never really worked to impact lasting change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) They don't work because concert tickets are still under valued. If an artist can sell out a 9,000 person venue at $20 a seat, and then they find out they can still sell out the same venue charging $200 a seat - just to a different crowd, then they are going to go with the $200 option. I love going to concerts and now that I'm older I mostly avoid General Admission tickets, so I'm already paying more. This year I've gone to 6 concerts and on average I've paid around $120 per ticket. While expensive, I've never felt like what I paid wasn't worth it. But, when it comes to beer/water/food I always feel that it's over priced and not worth the cost. Don't get me started on the employee asking for a 20% tip on a $20 beer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Watch the video. Neither the artist nor the venue have any real say on the matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Artists absolutely do have a say on the matter, they can say no. They can not tour. They can only do small venues that don't use Live Nation. They can use other ticketing services - although the most expensive concert I went to this year was Rolling Stones and they didn't use Ticketmaster. Artists choose to go with Live Nation because it makes them money, provides a better ticketing experience for their fans, and gives the artist a boogeyman to blame for high ticket costs. Pearl Jam tried to fight this fight in the 90s and realized that there isn't a better alternative if they wanted to tour and make money. They chose to keep touring and went back to using Ticketmaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] -2 points 2 years ago No. You're wrong. Watch the video. permalink fedilink source parent [+] voracitude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) People who can't afford it are already not going. That's why their CEOs are comparing concerts to luxury handbags. You're still appealing to emotion of those who can afford it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voracitude@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] -1 points 2 years ago And this is why boycott like his don't do shit. Capitalist brainworms man, I'll tell ya... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) They don't work because concert tickets are still under valued. If an artist can sell out a 9,000 person venue at $20 a seat, and then they find out they can still sell out the same venue charging $200 a seat - just to a different crowd, then they are going to go with the $200 option. I love going to concerts and now that I'm older I mostly avoid General Admission tickets, so I'm already paying more. This year I've gone to 6 concerts and on average I've paid around $120 per ticket. While expensive, I've never felt like what I paid wasn't worth it. But, when it comes to beer/water/food I always feel that it's over priced and not worth the cost. Don't get me started on the employee asking for a 20% tip on a $20 beer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Watch the video. Neither the artist nor the venue have any real say on the matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Artists absolutely do have a say on the matter, they can say no. They can not tour. They can only do small venues that don't use Live Nation. They can use other ticketing services - although the most expensive concert I went to this year was Rolling Stones and they didn't use Ticketmaster. Artists choose to go with Live Nation because it makes them money, provides a better ticketing experience for their fans, and gives the artist a boogeyman to blame for high ticket costs. Pearl Jam tried to fight this fight in the 90s and realized that there isn't a better alternative if they wanted to tour and make money. They chose to keep touring and went back to using Ticketmaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] -2 points 2 years ago No. You're wrong. Watch the video. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Watch the video. Neither the artist nor the venue have any real say on the matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Artists absolutely do have a say on the matter, they can say no. They can not tour. They can only do small venues that don't use Live Nation. They can use other ticketing services - although the most expensive concert I went to this year was Rolling Stones and they didn't use Ticketmaster. Artists choose to go with Live Nation because it makes them money, provides a better ticketing experience for their fans, and gives the artist a boogeyman to blame for high ticket costs. Pearl Jam tried to fight this fight in the 90s and realized that there isn't a better alternative if they wanted to tour and make money. They chose to keep touring and went back to using Ticketmaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] -2 points 2 years ago No. You're wrong. Watch the video. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Artists absolutely do have a say on the matter, they can say no. They can not tour. They can only do small venues that don't use Live Nation. They can use other ticketing services - although the most expensive concert I went to this year was Rolling Stones and they didn't use Ticketmaster. Artists choose to go with Live Nation because it makes them money, provides a better ticketing experience for their fans, and gives the artist a boogeyman to blame for high ticket costs. Pearl Jam tried to fight this fight in the 90s and realized that there isn't a better alternative if they wanted to tour and make money. They chose to keep touring and went back to using Ticketmaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] -2 points 2 years ago No. You're wrong. Watch the video. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] -2 points 2 years ago No. You're wrong. Watch the video. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] voracitude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) People who can't afford it are already not going. That's why their CEOs are comparing concerts to luxury handbags. You're still appealing to emotion of those who can afford it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voracitude@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] -1 points 2 years ago And this is why boycott like his don't do shit. Capitalist brainworms man, I'll tell ya... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) People who can't afford it are already not going. That's why their CEOs are comparing concerts to luxury handbags. You're still appealing to emotion of those who can afford it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voracitude@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] -1 points 2 years ago And this is why boycott like his don't do shit. Capitalist brainworms man, I'll tell ya... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] voracitude@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] -1 points 2 years ago And this is why boycott like his don't do shit. Capitalist brainworms man, I'll tell ya... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] -1 points 2 years ago And this is why boycott like his don't do shit. Capitalist brainworms man, I'll tell ya... permalink fedilink source parent