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Hey 👋 if you don't know us already, we're building Frontpage; an AT Procol based federated link aggregator. We shipped an initial MVP in closed beta recently and have since been thinking about the road to general availability.

This post is an RFC (Request for Comments) targeted at technically minded folks who are interested in seeing the progression of atproto for non-Bluesky/microblogging use cases. All that's to say the language that follows assumes some knowledge about how Bluesky and atproto work! I've tried to include links to explain what all of the jargon means though, so hopefully it's not entirely nonsense for folks a little less familiar!

When you post on Frontpage, we propose that a mirror post will also be created in your Bluesky account. When you comment on Frontpage, we propose that a mirror reply will be created in your Bluesky account.

Conversely, when you reply to one of these mirrored posts in Bluesky - we will show it as a reply in Frontpage.

Additionally, Bluesky likes will be translated to Frontpage votes and vice versa.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (16 children)

One thing that seems to go unappreciated in the comments is the simplicity of this interop proposal: It is essentially about enabling quote-posting of link-aggregator(Groups) posts.

Bluesky + Frontpage will work this way, and I believe it’ll work exceedingly well. If the ap-net corner of the fediverse isn’t interested in this kind of interop, fair enough. To me however the promise of seamless interop between my social apps was what brought me to the fediverse, so that’s the version of the fediverse I will pursue.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I also think that this is how it should be. Initially I thought I wouldn't need multiple accounts for the fediverse. Right now I'm more active on Bluesky than on Mastodon so it would be great to have an AT Protocol equivalent to Lemmy/Reddit and all that without having to create a new account for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Bluesky is not a part of the fediverse. If they don't want to use standards and the devs cry about how it is absolutely impossible to integrate the features of ATProto into ActivityPub, then they can fuck off.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How does your comment relate to my comment?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

How does it not relate to your comment?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seems quite relevant indeed.

To the stance above: if people prefer to have a unified experience managed by a corporation, that's okay.

There are enough people on the Internet to keep a few places actives. The Fediverse and Blueskey can coexist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes and that's why I don't understand their comment and even less why it gets downvoted. They seem to complain about something to me that I didn't even mention and the topic was not about combining ATProto with ActivityPub or whatever.

Maybe relate wasn't the right word. English isn't my native language.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Reading the thread again, I guess it comes from

Initially I thought I wouldn’t need multiple accounts for the fediverse.

Followed by

Right now I’m more active on Bluesky

Some people might have understood it as "The Fediverse failed, Bluesky is better". As I said, to me it's okay to prefer one or the other, but some people are less tolerant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I never said that Bluesky is part of the fediverse for example and the rest of your comment seems to me like it should be directed to OP or devs of ATProto and not me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Who said I directed my complaints at you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why did you write your comment as an answer to my comment then if it's not directed at me?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bluesky is not a part of the fediverse.

That is directed at you, but is not a complaint.

The rest is my own rant at the devs, not directed at you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Then you misunderstood me because I know that Bluesky is not part of the fediverse. With my comment I was trying to say that I would be happy to be able to communicate solely in ATProto apps with one account instead of with multiple accounts in ActivityPub.

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