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Porting systemd to musl libc-powered Linux (catfox.life)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I have completed an initial new port of systemd to musl. This patch set does not share much in common with the existing OpenEmbedded patchset. I wanted to make a fully updated patch series targeting more current releases of systemd and musl, taking advantage of the latest features and updates in both. I also took a focus on writing patches that could be sent for consideration of inclusion upstream.

The final result is a system that appears to be surprisingly reliable considering the newness of the port, and very fast to boot.

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And that is how I became the first person alive to see systemd passing its entire test suite on a big-endian 64-bit PowerPC musl libc system.

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While the system works really well, and boots in 1/3rd the time of OpenRC on the same system, it isn’t ready for prime time just yet.

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There aren’t any service unit files written or packaged yet, other than OpenSSH and utmps. We are working with our sponsor on an effort to add -systemd split packages to any of the packages with -openrc splits. We should be able to rely on upstream units where present, and lean on Gentoo and Fedora’s systemd experts to have good base files to reference when needed. I’ve already landed support for this in abuild.

This work is part of Adélie Linux

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (7 children)

What is the aim of this project? Is there a reason why we want to port systemd to distributions which do not want to use glibc?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (5 children)

For all the cases where musk might have advantages.

https://www.reddit.com/r/voidlinux/comments/muoqis/what_are_the_advantages_of_using_musl_in_place_of/

I like that musl helps build smaller containers. And sometimes I need systemd in a container.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Systemd bloats the container a lot more than glibc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If I need systemd for a specific use, like testing systemd services, that’s essential, not bloat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If I need systemd for a specific use, like testing systemd services

So you're hoping to test systemd in this theoretical test environment, but your prod isn't built like this? Tell us why you're ignoring the first rule of testing and deploying internal software?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The same containers can be used for dev, test and production.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't recomend testing any software for glibc system on a musl system.

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