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I hate the rich (lemmy.world)
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[–] 27 points 2 years ago* (23 children)

That's 7 more than most Americans get

No but jokes aside where are you from so I don't move there

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    It looks like the average is 11 PTO days a year according to Forbes, with nearly a third of employees getting zero. I myself get 24 days a year with it going up to 29 in about a year. That said I'm terrified of being effed over by layoffs so I've been hoarding them like a dragon for the payout, which is arguably way way worse than having a nice federal minimum of PTO days.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Probably Turkey. Euro wannabes 😂

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Netherlands. Fuck turkey lmao. The only thing turkeys are good for is being eaten during Thanksgiving.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Well either your employer was acting illegally or you were only working a few hours per week, which is it?

    Minimum is 20 days in the Netherlands

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Unlimited ?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Wait, so you get "unlimited" paid vacation days? That sounds like complete corporate bullshit to me.. Who decideds when/if "work is done" or not? Even if your work isn't done (there is always more to do), you still deserve vacation/days off.

    How many paid vacation days do people take on average a year? How many did you take this year/last year? What happens if your company decides that you have taken too many vacation days this year, will they mention it you want to discuss wages? What happens if someone doesn't take a minimum number of vacation days a year, will they be forced to take them or will they get praise for being a "hard worker"?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    You're right to be wary of unlimited. It's primarily a way for employers to avoid having to pay out accrued vacation time when staff leave. And create the competitive environment you mentioned over taking few days vs a lot. It seems great at first glance but I'd prefer a set number of days, no ambiguity that way.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I decide.

    Oh please, then you could just "decide" to take every other month off and nobody would care, you would get paid the same,etc , you can't tell me that's the case..

    If you had read my comment, you’d see we are forced to take a eeek in July, two weeks for the end of the year

    Right, so 3 weeks vacation and you can't even decide when to take them. Sounds like a pretty shitty deal to me..

    I take very little time off.

    It seems that way, yes, so what good does "unlimited vacation" do?

    I feel like I’m already off most the time.

    Are you a hiring agent or something? What's next, are you going to tell me that your company is like "a family"?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    If I don't have my deliverables in then I would get terminated for performance.

    Right, so you don't decide shit, your company decides.

    It allows me to take off as much as I want.

    Clearly it doesn't, that's the point..

    How much more time does someone need?

    In my opinion? At least 5-6 weeks a year, but guaranteed and enforced by law. More is a matter of negotiation. No paying it out (unless you resign), no saving it up for next year (apart from a few days), not counting holydays, illness and paternity.

    We also have 9 months of paternity leave as well.

    I don't get why you keep writing as if you want to hire me.. You don't need to justfy your working conditions to me, if you are happy, good for you.. I'm simply telling you that if it was me, I wouldn't trust shit like "unlimited vacation days"..

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    No I decide.

    Keep telling yourselve that, my friend.

    I’m minimum 12 weeks a year.

    It was 4-8 weeks when I asked you, now it's 12 weeks minimum. Good for you.

    Have no interest in hiring you.

    Obviously I have no interest in a company as you work at, that's my entire point..

    Look how you’re arguing about something you have no knowledge about.

    I'm telling you that this concept of "unlimited vacation days" sounds like, in my personal view, a shitty deal.. As I told you, if you are happy with the deal, that's great, no need to get so fucking defensive..

    Also pretty funny that you tell me about my work ethic despite not knowing me at all while complaining that I'm "arguing about something I have no knowledge about" 😂

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I work for a well known (international) business in the USA that used to be known for it's good benefits. Man are they ass now. 14 days a yr, 21 after 5 years, and could work your way up to 6 weeks at 30yrs. no lunch break, no pension, and some expensive health insurance that covers nothing. Now it used to be 21 starting 28 after 5 yrs, a pension and a lunch break, with some impressive healthcare. And they took away the upper limit of vacation you could get to be 4? IIRC After 30 years. (So 1 extra week after 5 years, then one more after another 25).

    The pay is fine but no nearly what it used to be. It used to be $10+ over the competition, now it's barely $1. They are hurting to hire because of it too

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