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"Tanky" and the perception of Lemmy. (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I've been trying to make people aware of Lemmy on discord and Mastodon, but it's always met with resistance citing "the devs are pro authoritarianism tankies." Kbin seems to be picking up steam because of the developer baggage.

Do you feel like this negative perception will hamstring Lemmy's growth?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Of course you implied that - you WROTE IT.

You are now backtracking instead of admitting wrong, what you should be saying "you know what, you're right I actually don't know anything about it but I regurgitate this because I've seen other anti-communists regurgitate a thousand times with literally no opposition so I've never taken any time to properly examine events, learn about them, or critically analyse whether the accusations have weight or not"... A response that would be mature, laudable, and the sign of a person who actually wants to grow as a human being. Instead what you seem to be doing is deflecting from this and trying to segue into something else. I am asking you to properly learn about this specific event first, if you want to talk about other events then I am fine with doing that.... But one at a time. This practice of bombarding people with dozens of different things at once is called Gish Gallop as is a tactic used in bad-faith to avoid any real critical engagement with the events.

[+] [email protected] -12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

And this is why people hate talking to tankies on the internet, you constantly rely on whataboutism and twisting everyone's words. I've never even said I'm anti-communist ever, literally just said that I don't support the actions taken by China and Russia when it comes to killing innocent people. I even said in my first comment I'm leftist, it's fine though, you really should read that Gish Gallop article you linked better.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I have done no whataboutism. What are you on about? Can you stick to the fucking topic?

If you don't want to engage that's on you. I told you I'm willing to, one at a time. That way we can get into each topic individually and give it the due care, research and understanding that it needs.

You are the ones avoiding engagement by demanding a 10,000 character response on every single topic simultaneously, which we all know that you will not read.

I’ve never even said I’m anti-communist ever

You don't need to say it, you display it in all of your actions. What do you do? What orgs are you in? What have you ever contributed to anti-capitalism other than spending all of your time on the internet shitting on every socialist project that has ever existed with absolutely no critical analysis of their rights and wrongs? I'm perfectly willing to get into the wrongs, there have been plenty of wrongs in the strategies of past projects or else we would've beaten capitalism already. The issue is that people like yourself tend towards only seeing and talking about wrongs, because you've created an identity for yourself around punching left and thusly preventing socialism instead of actually doing anything to construct it.