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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (21 children)

A little too late Justin. You let corporate greed rule your policies when it comes to immigration and foreign students without working out the strain it qould cause elsewhere in the economy. That is the absence of governing not good government. PP and conservatives will be the same if not worse!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

I know that my opinion on all this is not popular, and I usually keep it to myself especially where immigration and students are concerned since, lets face it, the hate for them can be unreal, but in this case I feel compelled to say I feel like this criticism is unfair.

The government is dealing with many real problems at once, and federal government policy impacts often have incredible lag time , meaning you can't just keep making changes every quarter without risking a lot.

With immigration, the Fed was (and in some cases still is) responding to real worker shortages, slowing population growth, and generational change and retirement. Real problems that need to be solved, and immigration is a solution to it. Some of the changes were actually humanitarian changes to reduce TFW exploitation and abuse. Meanwhile, the fed have no control over interest rates, little to no control over global inflation, and we exist in a federal system that separates powers and responsibilities which not only limits what the federal government can do but guarantees any perceived overstep will be challenged in court by at least 2, if not more provinces.

They've been governing, you don't have to like it and many people don't consider all the factors that go into these decisions, but it isn't fair to say they've been absent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Federal government has the means and responsiblity to persuade and cajole provinces in certain directions when it comes impacts of policies they are implementing. They could have foreseen the housing shortage or the unemployment or the depressed wages with the immigration, foreign workers and foreign student programs they are creating, because that's what the hundreds of thousands of bureaucrats in various government agencies are for - to plan and study all the freakin impacts- but didn't foresee it or chose to ignore it, having faith in the "markets" to solve needs of the economy. Alas, the "markets" are slow moving and not efficient at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Federal government has the means and responsiblity to persuade and cajole provinces in certain directions when it comes impacts of policies they are implementing.

I'm not going to defend Trudeau. Not on any front.

But this is a bad take. Any federal government taking a take-it-or-leave-it approach to the provinces is attempting to operate as a dictatorship, and it's something that should be actively resisted or rejected.

The problem right now is that there are a lot of Conservative Premieres, and they can taste blood in the water, so they're circling and stonewalling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

AFAICT the federal daycare deal, dental care, measures to address the housing crisis, and price on carbon were implemented by negotiating/cajoling the provinces. Generally speaking, I believe those were mostly successful initiatives that help Canadians.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Dental care, housing deals with cities and the fall back carbon pricing were all done dispite provincial pushback (as far as I'm aware).

The only one where they worked with the provinces was the daycare, and that took like 18 months for provinces to actually agree on and even today provinces like Ontario continue to drag their feet on.

From what I've seen over the last 3-5 years, the provinces have very little interest in actively working constructively with the feds.

I don't know what the current status of the healthcare chats are, but a few years ago the feds were willing to help push additional funding into the provincial healthcare systems, but the provinces needed to agree to terms (I believe the terms were around the money needing to be spent on the public healthcare system and not working towards privatization). as far as I know the talks never went anywhere, and healthcare systems are still underfunded.

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