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[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago (48 children) Wrong person survived that night permalink fedilink source hideshow 48 child comments replies: [+] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) What is like to simp for a useless little rightwing murderer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago ...I think he's saying he wished Rittenhouse was dead. Since he was the survivor. permalink fedilink source parent [+] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children) The guy he shot was a pedo. - and a felon*? Edit : Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. https://apnews.com/article/shootings-gun-politics-58c52e6d36475b5e7cd79ccaeffb5416 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (10 children) "If you don't agree with the extrajudicial execution of a person by an 18-year old dipshit, you're a pedophile" Seriously, put some attempt in please. That is just fucking lazy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago* (9 children) Not what I said. The things I said were two different statements. Don't come at me cause you've got small skeletons in your closet. That's a joke. You're right, what I meant was the guy deserves some sympathy because he's dead. The guy does not deserve sympathy based on his previous actions, AND he tried to kill some kid. Kyle is objectively in the right here, but he shouldn't have been where he was, doing what he was doing. Fuck Kyle. I'm not condoning him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. You're trying to claim ^ that doesn't clearly imply that people who downvoted your comment were "probably pedos"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (7 children) Eh. Is this really worth the effort? For either of us? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) I like forums. If you don't, then don't use them. Especially don't use them if you don't have the moxy to stand behind your own words. Word's which you said. Which go like this: Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. You're trying to walk back the thing you now realise was pretty silly to wrote down. So youre trying to ignore your bs while still replying something. You directly implied people who disagree with you are pedophiles. What an intellectual take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (5 children) Yea you said that part already cause it's what I said. By that logic if you are disagreeing that this isn't worth the time to keep going back and forth about youre probably a pedophile. I like forums too 🙂. I also realIze what I said was fucking weird and back tracked a bit. If you let this go, I'm sure your experience here will be ever so slightly less negative. There's plenty of other things to be doing on Lemmy then arguing with someone who's joke didn't land for you specifically. It would be entirely easier to call me a dick out loud, chuckle at how much better you are for thinking a different opinion and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) "Let this go"? I don't quite catch your meaning. You can just stop replying if you feel like it. I'm just here pointing out you got buthurt over people disagreeing with you and started calling them pedos. Not too mature, is it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean...youve got a point. I'm kinda enjoying this too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You enjoy calling random people pedos for no reason? See that's the more likely reason for your downvotes, rather than those people actually being pedophiles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Doubt. They're probably pedos as well as Debby downers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's a "yes" on you enjoying calling random people you don't know pedos for no reason. That's harmful to the fight against pedophilia, which means you're helping pedophiles. Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] iamtrashman1312@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hey, Trump is both of those things too, per courts of law. You must be pretty broken up he survived the attempt, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I'm voting for Harris... permalink fedilink source parent [–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I am willing to bet kyle is one too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Whether the person he shot was a convicted or suspected felon is absolutely irrelevant, vigilante justice is no justice at all, not to mention that he had no way of knowing anything about the people he shot. That said, I absolutely believe all three were legitimate self-defense. The problem here isn't that he shot people in self-defense, but that he was a minor in possession of a firearm. Anyone who enabled him to bring that firearm to Kenosha should be held responsible (if they haven't already). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I agree with all of your points. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -65 points 2 years ago (27 children) So you admit he was fighting for his life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago (17 children) What a ridiculous thing to say. They didn't insinuate that in any way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -32 points 2 years ago (16 children) The other gun would disagree with the validity of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (15 children) Why did he cross state lines with a weapon after threatening violence? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -31 points 2 years ago (14 children) Because it's not against the law and had shit that he was doing there. You act like state borders are like national borders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (13 children) And what “shit” was he doing there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -21 points 2 years ago (12 children) Cleaning graffiti if I recall correctly. Cleaning up in general in a dangerous area subject to some riots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) It’s astonishing to me that you are simultaneously capable of forming full sentences and not seeing how useless and dumb that sentence sounds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -18 points 2 years ago (3 children) And yet it wasn't illegal. If it was he would have been found guilty. I said nothing of the intelligence of his plans, just what I remember of the facts. I remember he wasn't doing anything wrong, but was targeted by some shitstains who chased after an armed guy. That was ultimately the stupidest decision on the day. One of the shitstains was a felon with a gun, and the dead one was a sex offender. If I got some of the details wrong it's because I don't care enough to look it up because it's a decided case. Sounds a lot like FAFO to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not remember the very iconic picture of him in his blue gloves? At the very least he did have something. Usually when somebody is running from attackers they don't pick up the bucket of supplies they were using before running away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (5 children) You recall very incorrectly and should probably look up what really happened before you so confidently make incorrect statements. Ask yourself why he had zero cleaning equipment and instead only brought a loaded rifle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Alright. Go ahead. Bring your evidence, because I saw the pictures and video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 17 year old in possession of a firearm. Misdemeanor. There. One simple charge and you are wrong. You clearly aren't interested in truth, just your opinion on it. Have a good one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago 17 year olds are typically only restricted from handguns. Go ahead and point to the law that says he wasn't allowed to possess a long gun at that time. Maybe you should have been on the prosecution if you're so good. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Here's the picture everybody saw of him cleaning before the shooting. Obviously you have no memories of the actual situation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago He claimed he was hired to guard someone's dealership, and when the guy denied ever hiring him he tried to say "Actually it was my dad's dealership!" then when he was called on that lie he stopped bringing it up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (3 children) He was, but it's not self-defense if the only reason you are in that situation is because you created it. If I put myself and another person in some room that's rigged to lock and not unlock until the other person is dead.. Technically I am fighting for my life, but it's not self-defense because this wouldn't have happened if I didn't seek this out intentionally... And that's basically what Rittenhouse did waving that gun around permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Self-defense is a response to a threat from someone else, "putting yourself" into a situation doesn't change that. If that were true, we'd be free to blame victims of other crimes (e.g. cyclists and pedestrians hit by cars) for putting themselves into dangerous situations. But that's absolutely not the case, it's not my fault if a car hits me while I'm legally riding/walking on the side of the road, nor is it my fault that someone attacks me because I'm holding a firearm. That said, Rittenhouse was a minor and AFAICT not legally allowed to possess a firearm in that situation. That is the problem here, and anyone who enabled him to bring a firearm to that situation should be held at least partially accountable. But his actions in the moment were self-defense. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) The court disagrees. Just because somewhere is dangerous, doesn't mean you're not allowed to be there. If you want to go somewhere dangerous and you do not want to be at more risk, you bring protection. Don't fuck around if you don't want to find out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago It's not that he went that out all, it's that there was a boatload of evidence implying that killing was his motive for wanting to go in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) HEY everyone, this guy ^^ was THERE THAT NIGHT! We should all RELY TO him with our detailed questions about the events that unfolded since he clearly knows and has witnessed the events and is therefore an unimpeachable source of objective truth on this subject! Why weren't you in the trial, out of curiosity? I'd have thought they'd be after your testimony, you know, since you know all this stuff and are really smart. Just wondering... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Dude. He was found not guilty. If there was evidence of him being there for no reason other than to kill somebody then I'm sure he would have been convicted. I remember fairly well that he retreated but got attacked by a guy trying to hit him in the head with a skateboard (weapon) and shooting the arm of a felon brandishing a handgun at him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm sure Kyle is glad you're out here white-knighting for him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago Whatever you say bro. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -9 points 2 years ago https://heavy.com/news/gaige-grosskreutz/ https://www.npr.org/2021/11/19/1057422329/why-legal-experts-were-not-surprised-by-the-rittenhouse-jurys-decision-to-acquit I didn't remember it perfectly, but certainly a lot that is ignored by those who hate Rittenhouse. I was mistaken when I said the guy with the handgun is a felon. He WAS a felon and seems like an all around piece of shit, but his felony was expunged so he was legally allowed to possess a firearm. He did have a loaded handgun in his hand when approaching Kyle though. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) What is like to simp for a useless little rightwing murderer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago ...I think he's saying he wished Rittenhouse was dead. Since he was the survivor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago ...I think he's saying he wished Rittenhouse was dead. Since he was the survivor. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children) The guy he shot was a pedo. - and a felon*? Edit : Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. https://apnews.com/article/shootings-gun-politics-58c52e6d36475b5e7cd79ccaeffb5416 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (10 children) "If you don't agree with the extrajudicial execution of a person by an 18-year old dipshit, you're a pedophile" Seriously, put some attempt in please. That is just fucking lazy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago* (9 children) Not what I said. The things I said were two different statements. Don't come at me cause you've got small skeletons in your closet. That's a joke. You're right, what I meant was the guy deserves some sympathy because he's dead. The guy does not deserve sympathy based on his previous actions, AND he tried to kill some kid. Kyle is objectively in the right here, but he shouldn't have been where he was, doing what he was doing. Fuck Kyle. I'm not condoning him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. You're trying to claim ^ that doesn't clearly imply that people who downvoted your comment were "probably pedos"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (7 children) Eh. Is this really worth the effort? For either of us? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) I like forums. If you don't, then don't use them. Especially don't use them if you don't have the moxy to stand behind your own words. Word's which you said. Which go like this: Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. You're trying to walk back the thing you now realise was pretty silly to wrote down. So youre trying to ignore your bs while still replying something. You directly implied people who disagree with you are pedophiles. What an intellectual take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (5 children) Yea you said that part already cause it's what I said. By that logic if you are disagreeing that this isn't worth the time to keep going back and forth about youre probably a pedophile. I like forums too 🙂. I also realIze what I said was fucking weird and back tracked a bit. If you let this go, I'm sure your experience here will be ever so slightly less negative. There's plenty of other things to be doing on Lemmy then arguing with someone who's joke didn't land for you specifically. It would be entirely easier to call me a dick out loud, chuckle at how much better you are for thinking a different opinion and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) "Let this go"? I don't quite catch your meaning. You can just stop replying if you feel like it. I'm just here pointing out you got buthurt over people disagreeing with you and started calling them pedos. Not too mature, is it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean...youve got a point. I'm kinda enjoying this too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You enjoy calling random people pedos for no reason? See that's the more likely reason for your downvotes, rather than those people actually being pedophiles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Doubt. They're probably pedos as well as Debby downers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's a "yes" on you enjoying calling random people you don't know pedos for no reason. That's harmful to the fight against pedophilia, which means you're helping pedophiles. Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] iamtrashman1312@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hey, Trump is both of those things too, per courts of law. You must be pretty broken up he survived the attempt, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I'm voting for Harris... permalink fedilink source parent [–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I am willing to bet kyle is one too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Whether the person he shot was a convicted or suspected felon is absolutely irrelevant, vigilante justice is no justice at all, not to mention that he had no way of knowing anything about the people he shot. That said, I absolutely believe all three were legitimate self-defense. The problem here isn't that he shot people in self-defense, but that he was a minor in possession of a firearm. Anyone who enabled him to bring that firearm to Kenosha should be held responsible (if they haven't already). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I agree with all of your points. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (10 children) "If you don't agree with the extrajudicial execution of a person by an 18-year old dipshit, you're a pedophile" Seriously, put some attempt in please. That is just fucking lazy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago* (9 children) Not what I said. The things I said were two different statements. Don't come at me cause you've got small skeletons in your closet. That's a joke. You're right, what I meant was the guy deserves some sympathy because he's dead. The guy does not deserve sympathy based on his previous actions, AND he tried to kill some kid. Kyle is objectively in the right here, but he shouldn't have been where he was, doing what he was doing. Fuck Kyle. I'm not condoning him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. You're trying to claim ^ that doesn't clearly imply that people who downvoted your comment were "probably pedos"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (7 children) Eh. Is this really worth the effort? For either of us? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) I like forums. If you don't, then don't use them. Especially don't use them if you don't have the moxy to stand behind your own words. Word's which you said. Which go like this: Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. You're trying to walk back the thing you now realise was pretty silly to wrote down. So youre trying to ignore your bs while still replying something. You directly implied people who disagree with you are pedophiles. What an intellectual take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (5 children) Yea you said that part already cause it's what I said. By that logic if you are disagreeing that this isn't worth the time to keep going back and forth about youre probably a pedophile. I like forums too 🙂. I also realIze what I said was fucking weird and back tracked a bit. If you let this go, I'm sure your experience here will be ever so slightly less negative. There's plenty of other things to be doing on Lemmy then arguing with someone who's joke didn't land for you specifically. It would be entirely easier to call me a dick out loud, chuckle at how much better you are for thinking a different opinion and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) "Let this go"? I don't quite catch your meaning. You can just stop replying if you feel like it. I'm just here pointing out you got buthurt over people disagreeing with you and started calling them pedos. Not too mature, is it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean...youve got a point. I'm kinda enjoying this too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You enjoy calling random people pedos for no reason? See that's the more likely reason for your downvotes, rather than those people actually being pedophiles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Doubt. They're probably pedos as well as Debby downers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's a "yes" on you enjoying calling random people you don't know pedos for no reason. That's harmful to the fight against pedophilia, which means you're helping pedophiles. Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago* (9 children) Not what I said. The things I said were two different statements. Don't come at me cause you've got small skeletons in your closet. That's a joke. You're right, what I meant was the guy deserves some sympathy because he's dead. The guy does not deserve sympathy based on his previous actions, AND he tried to kill some kid. Kyle is objectively in the right here, but he shouldn't have been where he was, doing what he was doing. Fuck Kyle. I'm not condoning him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. You're trying to claim ^ that doesn't clearly imply that people who downvoted your comment were "probably pedos"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (7 children) Eh. Is this really worth the effort? For either of us? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) I like forums. If you don't, then don't use them. Especially don't use them if you don't have the moxy to stand behind your own words. Word's which you said. Which go like this: Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. You're trying to walk back the thing you now realise was pretty silly to wrote down. So youre trying to ignore your bs while still replying something. You directly implied people who disagree with you are pedophiles. What an intellectual take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (5 children) Yea you said that part already cause it's what I said. By that logic if you are disagreeing that this isn't worth the time to keep going back and forth about youre probably a pedophile. I like forums too 🙂. I also realIze what I said was fucking weird and back tracked a bit. If you let this go, I'm sure your experience here will be ever so slightly less negative. There's plenty of other things to be doing on Lemmy then arguing with someone who's joke didn't land for you specifically. It would be entirely easier to call me a dick out loud, chuckle at how much better you are for thinking a different opinion and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) "Let this go"? I don't quite catch your meaning. You can just stop replying if you feel like it. I'm just here pointing out you got buthurt over people disagreeing with you and started calling them pedos. Not too mature, is it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean...youve got a point. I'm kinda enjoying this too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You enjoy calling random people pedos for no reason? See that's the more likely reason for your downvotes, rather than those people actually being pedophiles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Doubt. They're probably pedos as well as Debby downers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's a "yes" on you enjoying calling random people you don't know pedos for no reason. That's harmful to the fight against pedophilia, which means you're helping pedophiles. Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. You're trying to claim ^ that doesn't clearly imply that people who downvoted your comment were "probably pedos"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (7 children) Eh. Is this really worth the effort? For either of us? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) I like forums. If you don't, then don't use them. Especially don't use them if you don't have the moxy to stand behind your own words. Word's which you said. Which go like this: Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. You're trying to walk back the thing you now realise was pretty silly to wrote down. So youre trying to ignore your bs while still replying something. You directly implied people who disagree with you are pedophiles. What an intellectual take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (5 children) Yea you said that part already cause it's what I said. By that logic if you are disagreeing that this isn't worth the time to keep going back and forth about youre probably a pedophile. I like forums too 🙂. I also realIze what I said was fucking weird and back tracked a bit. If you let this go, I'm sure your experience here will be ever so slightly less negative. There's plenty of other things to be doing on Lemmy then arguing with someone who's joke didn't land for you specifically. It would be entirely easier to call me a dick out loud, chuckle at how much better you are for thinking a different opinion and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) "Let this go"? I don't quite catch your meaning. You can just stop replying if you feel like it. I'm just here pointing out you got buthurt over people disagreeing with you and started calling them pedos. Not too mature, is it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean...youve got a point. I'm kinda enjoying this too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You enjoy calling random people pedos for no reason? See that's the more likely reason for your downvotes, rather than those people actually being pedophiles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Doubt. They're probably pedos as well as Debby downers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's a "yes" on you enjoying calling random people you don't know pedos for no reason. That's harmful to the fight against pedophilia, which means you're helping pedophiles. Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (7 children) Eh. Is this really worth the effort? For either of us? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) I like forums. If you don't, then don't use them. Especially don't use them if you don't have the moxy to stand behind your own words. Word's which you said. Which go like this: Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. You're trying to walk back the thing you now realise was pretty silly to wrote down. So youre trying to ignore your bs while still replying something. You directly implied people who disagree with you are pedophiles. What an intellectual take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (5 children) Yea you said that part already cause it's what I said. By that logic if you are disagreeing that this isn't worth the time to keep going back and forth about youre probably a pedophile. I like forums too 🙂. I also realIze what I said was fucking weird and back tracked a bit. If you let this go, I'm sure your experience here will be ever so slightly less negative. There's plenty of other things to be doing on Lemmy then arguing with someone who's joke didn't land for you specifically. It would be entirely easier to call me a dick out loud, chuckle at how much better you are for thinking a different opinion and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) "Let this go"? I don't quite catch your meaning. You can just stop replying if you feel like it. I'm just here pointing out you got buthurt over people disagreeing with you and started calling them pedos. Not too mature, is it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean...youve got a point. I'm kinda enjoying this too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You enjoy calling random people pedos for no reason? See that's the more likely reason for your downvotes, rather than those people actually being pedophiles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Doubt. They're probably pedos as well as Debby downers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's a "yes" on you enjoying calling random people you don't know pedos for no reason. That's harmful to the fight against pedophilia, which means you're helping pedophiles. Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) I like forums. If you don't, then don't use them. Especially don't use them if you don't have the moxy to stand behind your own words. Word's which you said. Which go like this: Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. You're trying to walk back the thing you now realise was pretty silly to wrote down. So youre trying to ignore your bs while still replying something. You directly implied people who disagree with you are pedophiles. What an intellectual take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (5 children) Yea you said that part already cause it's what I said. By that logic if you are disagreeing that this isn't worth the time to keep going back and forth about youre probably a pedophile. I like forums too 🙂. I also realIze what I said was fucking weird and back tracked a bit. If you let this go, I'm sure your experience here will be ever so slightly less negative. There's plenty of other things to be doing on Lemmy then arguing with someone who's joke didn't land for you specifically. It would be entirely easier to call me a dick out loud, chuckle at how much better you are for thinking a different opinion and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) "Let this go"? I don't quite catch your meaning. You can just stop replying if you feel like it. I'm just here pointing out you got buthurt over people disagreeing with you and started calling them pedos. Not too mature, is it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean...youve got a point. I'm kinda enjoying this too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You enjoy calling random people pedos for no reason? See that's the more likely reason for your downvotes, rather than those people actually being pedophiles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Doubt. They're probably pedos as well as Debby downers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's a "yes" on you enjoying calling random people you don't know pedos for no reason. That's harmful to the fight against pedophilia, which means you're helping pedophiles. Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (5 children) Yea you said that part already cause it's what I said. By that logic if you are disagreeing that this isn't worth the time to keep going back and forth about youre probably a pedophile. I like forums too 🙂. I also realIze what I said was fucking weird and back tracked a bit. If you let this go, I'm sure your experience here will be ever so slightly less negative. There's plenty of other things to be doing on Lemmy then arguing with someone who's joke didn't land for you specifically. It would be entirely easier to call me a dick out loud, chuckle at how much better you are for thinking a different opinion and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) "Let this go"? I don't quite catch your meaning. You can just stop replying if you feel like it. I'm just here pointing out you got buthurt over people disagreeing with you and started calling them pedos. Not too mature, is it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean...youve got a point. I'm kinda enjoying this too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You enjoy calling random people pedos for no reason? See that's the more likely reason for your downvotes, rather than those people actually being pedophiles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Doubt. They're probably pedos as well as Debby downers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's a "yes" on you enjoying calling random people you don't know pedos for no reason. That's harmful to the fight against pedophilia, which means you're helping pedophiles. Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) "Let this go"? I don't quite catch your meaning. You can just stop replying if you feel like it. I'm just here pointing out you got buthurt over people disagreeing with you and started calling them pedos. Not too mature, is it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean...youve got a point. I'm kinda enjoying this too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You enjoy calling random people pedos for no reason? See that's the more likely reason for your downvotes, rather than those people actually being pedophiles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Doubt. They're probably pedos as well as Debby downers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's a "yes" on you enjoying calling random people you don't know pedos for no reason. That's harmful to the fight against pedophilia, which means you're helping pedophiles. Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean...youve got a point. I'm kinda enjoying this too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You enjoy calling random people pedos for no reason? See that's the more likely reason for your downvotes, rather than those people actually being pedophiles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Doubt. They're probably pedos as well as Debby downers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's a "yes" on you enjoying calling random people you don't know pedos for no reason. That's harmful to the fight against pedophilia, which means you're helping pedophiles. Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You enjoy calling random people pedos for no reason? See that's the more likely reason for your downvotes, rather than those people actually being pedophiles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Doubt. They're probably pedos as well as Debby downers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's a "yes" on you enjoying calling random people you don't know pedos for no reason. That's harmful to the fight against pedophilia, which means you're helping pedophiles. Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Doubt. They're probably pedos as well as Debby downers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's a "yes" on you enjoying calling random people you don't know pedos for no reason. That's harmful to the fight against pedophilia, which means you're helping pedophiles. Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's a "yes" on you enjoying calling random people you don't know pedos for no reason. That's harmful to the fight against pedophilia, which means you're helping pedophiles. Disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iamtrashman1312@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hey, Trump is both of those things too, per courts of law. You must be pretty broken up he survived the attempt, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I'm voting for Harris... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I'm voting for Harris... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I am willing to bet kyle is one too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Whether the person he shot was a convicted or suspected felon is absolutely irrelevant, vigilante justice is no justice at all, not to mention that he had no way of knowing anything about the people he shot. That said, I absolutely believe all three were legitimate self-defense. The problem here isn't that he shot people in self-defense, but that he was a minor in possession of a firearm. Anyone who enabled him to bring that firearm to Kenosha should be held responsible (if they haven't already). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I agree with all of your points. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I agree with all of your points. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -65 points 2 years ago (27 children) So you admit he was fighting for his life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago (17 children) What a ridiculous thing to say. They didn't insinuate that in any way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -32 points 2 years ago (16 children) The other gun would disagree with the validity of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (15 children) Why did he cross state lines with a weapon after threatening violence? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -31 points 2 years ago (14 children) Because it's not against the law and had shit that he was doing there. You act like state borders are like national borders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (13 children) And what “shit” was he doing there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -21 points 2 years ago (12 children) Cleaning graffiti if I recall correctly. Cleaning up in general in a dangerous area subject to some riots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) It’s astonishing to me that you are simultaneously capable of forming full sentences and not seeing how useless and dumb that sentence sounds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -18 points 2 years ago (3 children) And yet it wasn't illegal. If it was he would have been found guilty. I said nothing of the intelligence of his plans, just what I remember of the facts. I remember he wasn't doing anything wrong, but was targeted by some shitstains who chased after an armed guy. That was ultimately the stupidest decision on the day. One of the shitstains was a felon with a gun, and the dead one was a sex offender. If I got some of the details wrong it's because I don't care enough to look it up because it's a decided case. Sounds a lot like FAFO to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not remember the very iconic picture of him in his blue gloves? At the very least he did have something. Usually when somebody is running from attackers they don't pick up the bucket of supplies they were using before running away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (5 children) You recall very incorrectly and should probably look up what really happened before you so confidently make incorrect statements. Ask yourself why he had zero cleaning equipment and instead only brought a loaded rifle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Alright. Go ahead. Bring your evidence, because I saw the pictures and video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 17 year old in possession of a firearm. Misdemeanor. There. One simple charge and you are wrong. You clearly aren't interested in truth, just your opinion on it. Have a good one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago 17 year olds are typically only restricted from handguns. Go ahead and point to the law that says he wasn't allowed to possess a long gun at that time. Maybe you should have been on the prosecution if you're so good. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Here's the picture everybody saw of him cleaning before the shooting. Obviously you have no memories of the actual situation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago He claimed he was hired to guard someone's dealership, and when the guy denied ever hiring him he tried to say "Actually it was my dad's dealership!" then when he was called on that lie he stopped bringing it up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (3 children) He was, but it's not self-defense if the only reason you are in that situation is because you created it. If I put myself and another person in some room that's rigged to lock and not unlock until the other person is dead.. Technically I am fighting for my life, but it's not self-defense because this wouldn't have happened if I didn't seek this out intentionally... And that's basically what Rittenhouse did waving that gun around permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Self-defense is a response to a threat from someone else, "putting yourself" into a situation doesn't change that. If that were true, we'd be free to blame victims of other crimes (e.g. cyclists and pedestrians hit by cars) for putting themselves into dangerous situations. But that's absolutely not the case, it's not my fault if a car hits me while I'm legally riding/walking on the side of the road, nor is it my fault that someone attacks me because I'm holding a firearm. That said, Rittenhouse was a minor and AFAICT not legally allowed to possess a firearm in that situation. That is the problem here, and anyone who enabled him to bring a firearm to that situation should be held at least partially accountable. But his actions in the moment were self-defense. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) The court disagrees. Just because somewhere is dangerous, doesn't mean you're not allowed to be there. If you want to go somewhere dangerous and you do not want to be at more risk, you bring protection. Don't fuck around if you don't want to find out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago It's not that he went that out all, it's that there was a boatload of evidence implying that killing was his motive for wanting to go in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) HEY everyone, this guy ^^ was THERE THAT NIGHT! We should all RELY TO him with our detailed questions about the events that unfolded since he clearly knows and has witnessed the events and is therefore an unimpeachable source of objective truth on this subject! Why weren't you in the trial, out of curiosity? I'd have thought they'd be after your testimony, you know, since you know all this stuff and are really smart. Just wondering... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Dude. He was found not guilty. If there was evidence of him being there for no reason other than to kill somebody then I'm sure he would have been convicted. I remember fairly well that he retreated but got attacked by a guy trying to hit him in the head with a skateboard (weapon) and shooting the arm of a felon brandishing a handgun at him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm sure Kyle is glad you're out here white-knighting for him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago Whatever you say bro. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -9 points 2 years ago https://heavy.com/news/gaige-grosskreutz/ https://www.npr.org/2021/11/19/1057422329/why-legal-experts-were-not-surprised-by-the-rittenhouse-jurys-decision-to-acquit I didn't remember it perfectly, but certainly a lot that is ignored by those who hate Rittenhouse. I was mistaken when I said the guy with the handgun is a felon. He WAS a felon and seems like an all around piece of shit, but his felony was expunged so he was legally allowed to possess a firearm. He did have a loaded handgun in his hand when approaching Kyle though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago (17 children) What a ridiculous thing to say. They didn't insinuate that in any way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -32 points 2 years ago (16 children) The other gun would disagree with the validity of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (15 children) Why did he cross state lines with a weapon after threatening violence? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -31 points 2 years ago (14 children) Because it's not against the law and had shit that he was doing there. You act like state borders are like national borders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (13 children) And what “shit” was he doing there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -21 points 2 years ago (12 children) Cleaning graffiti if I recall correctly. Cleaning up in general in a dangerous area subject to some riots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) It’s astonishing to me that you are simultaneously capable of forming full sentences and not seeing how useless and dumb that sentence sounds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -18 points 2 years ago (3 children) And yet it wasn't illegal. If it was he would have been found guilty. I said nothing of the intelligence of his plans, just what I remember of the facts. I remember he wasn't doing anything wrong, but was targeted by some shitstains who chased after an armed guy. That was ultimately the stupidest decision on the day. One of the shitstains was a felon with a gun, and the dead one was a sex offender. If I got some of the details wrong it's because I don't care enough to look it up because it's a decided case. Sounds a lot like FAFO to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not remember the very iconic picture of him in his blue gloves? At the very least he did have something. Usually when somebody is running from attackers they don't pick up the bucket of supplies they were using before running away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (5 children) You recall very incorrectly and should probably look up what really happened before you so confidently make incorrect statements. Ask yourself why he had zero cleaning equipment and instead only brought a loaded rifle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Alright. Go ahead. Bring your evidence, because I saw the pictures and video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 17 year old in possession of a firearm. Misdemeanor. There. One simple charge and you are wrong. You clearly aren't interested in truth, just your opinion on it. Have a good one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago 17 year olds are typically only restricted from handguns. Go ahead and point to the law that says he wasn't allowed to possess a long gun at that time. Maybe you should have been on the prosecution if you're so good. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Here's the picture everybody saw of him cleaning before the shooting. Obviously you have no memories of the actual situation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago He claimed he was hired to guard someone's dealership, and when the guy denied ever hiring him he tried to say "Actually it was my dad's dealership!" then when he was called on that lie he stopped bringing it up. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -32 points 2 years ago (16 children) The other gun would disagree with the validity of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (15 children) Why did he cross state lines with a weapon after threatening violence? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -31 points 2 years ago (14 children) Because it's not against the law and had shit that he was doing there. You act like state borders are like national borders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (13 children) And what “shit” was he doing there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -21 points 2 years ago (12 children) Cleaning graffiti if I recall correctly. Cleaning up in general in a dangerous area subject to some riots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) It’s astonishing to me that you are simultaneously capable of forming full sentences and not seeing how useless and dumb that sentence sounds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -18 points 2 years ago (3 children) And yet it wasn't illegal. If it was he would have been found guilty. I said nothing of the intelligence of his plans, just what I remember of the facts. I remember he wasn't doing anything wrong, but was targeted by some shitstains who chased after an armed guy. That was ultimately the stupidest decision on the day. One of the shitstains was a felon with a gun, and the dead one was a sex offender. If I got some of the details wrong it's because I don't care enough to look it up because it's a decided case. Sounds a lot like FAFO to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not remember the very iconic picture of him in his blue gloves? At the very least he did have something. Usually when somebody is running from attackers they don't pick up the bucket of supplies they were using before running away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (5 children) You recall very incorrectly and should probably look up what really happened before you so confidently make incorrect statements. Ask yourself why he had zero cleaning equipment and instead only brought a loaded rifle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Alright. Go ahead. Bring your evidence, because I saw the pictures and video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 17 year old in possession of a firearm. Misdemeanor. There. One simple charge and you are wrong. You clearly aren't interested in truth, just your opinion on it. Have a good one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago 17 year olds are typically only restricted from handguns. Go ahead and point to the law that says he wasn't allowed to possess a long gun at that time. Maybe you should have been on the prosecution if you're so good. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Here's the picture everybody saw of him cleaning before the shooting. Obviously you have no memories of the actual situation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago He claimed he was hired to guard someone's dealership, and when the guy denied ever hiring him he tried to say "Actually it was my dad's dealership!" then when he was called on that lie he stopped bringing it up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (15 children) Why did he cross state lines with a weapon after threatening violence? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -31 points 2 years ago (14 children) Because it's not against the law and had shit that he was doing there. You act like state borders are like national borders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (13 children) And what “shit” was he doing there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -21 points 2 years ago (12 children) Cleaning graffiti if I recall correctly. Cleaning up in general in a dangerous area subject to some riots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) It’s astonishing to me that you are simultaneously capable of forming full sentences and not seeing how useless and dumb that sentence sounds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -18 points 2 years ago (3 children) And yet it wasn't illegal. If it was he would have been found guilty. I said nothing of the intelligence of his plans, just what I remember of the facts. I remember he wasn't doing anything wrong, but was targeted by some shitstains who chased after an armed guy. That was ultimately the stupidest decision on the day. One of the shitstains was a felon with a gun, and the dead one was a sex offender. If I got some of the details wrong it's because I don't care enough to look it up because it's a decided case. Sounds a lot like FAFO to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not remember the very iconic picture of him in his blue gloves? At the very least he did have something. Usually when somebody is running from attackers they don't pick up the bucket of supplies they were using before running away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (5 children) You recall very incorrectly and should probably look up what really happened before you so confidently make incorrect statements. Ask yourself why he had zero cleaning equipment and instead only brought a loaded rifle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Alright. Go ahead. Bring your evidence, because I saw the pictures and video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 17 year old in possession of a firearm. Misdemeanor. There. One simple charge and you are wrong. You clearly aren't interested in truth, just your opinion on it. Have a good one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago 17 year olds are typically only restricted from handguns. Go ahead and point to the law that says he wasn't allowed to possess a long gun at that time. Maybe you should have been on the prosecution if you're so good. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Here's the picture everybody saw of him cleaning before the shooting. Obviously you have no memories of the actual situation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago He claimed he was hired to guard someone's dealership, and when the guy denied ever hiring him he tried to say "Actually it was my dad's dealership!" then when he was called on that lie he stopped bringing it up. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -31 points 2 years ago (14 children) Because it's not against the law and had shit that he was doing there. You act like state borders are like national borders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (13 children) And what “shit” was he doing there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -21 points 2 years ago (12 children) Cleaning graffiti if I recall correctly. Cleaning up in general in a dangerous area subject to some riots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) It’s astonishing to me that you are simultaneously capable of forming full sentences and not seeing how useless and dumb that sentence sounds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -18 points 2 years ago (3 children) And yet it wasn't illegal. If it was he would have been found guilty. I said nothing of the intelligence of his plans, just what I remember of the facts. I remember he wasn't doing anything wrong, but was targeted by some shitstains who chased after an armed guy. That was ultimately the stupidest decision on the day. One of the shitstains was a felon with a gun, and the dead one was a sex offender. If I got some of the details wrong it's because I don't care enough to look it up because it's a decided case. Sounds a lot like FAFO to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not remember the very iconic picture of him in his blue gloves? At the very least he did have something. Usually when somebody is running from attackers they don't pick up the bucket of supplies they were using before running away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (5 children) You recall very incorrectly and should probably look up what really happened before you so confidently make incorrect statements. Ask yourself why he had zero cleaning equipment and instead only brought a loaded rifle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Alright. Go ahead. Bring your evidence, because I saw the pictures and video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 17 year old in possession of a firearm. Misdemeanor. There. One simple charge and you are wrong. You clearly aren't interested in truth, just your opinion on it. Have a good one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago 17 year olds are typically only restricted from handguns. Go ahead and point to the law that says he wasn't allowed to possess a long gun at that time. Maybe you should have been on the prosecution if you're so good. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Here's the picture everybody saw of him cleaning before the shooting. Obviously you have no memories of the actual situation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago He claimed he was hired to guard someone's dealership, and when the guy denied ever hiring him he tried to say "Actually it was my dad's dealership!" then when he was called on that lie he stopped bringing it up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (13 children) And what “shit” was he doing there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -21 points 2 years ago (12 children) Cleaning graffiti if I recall correctly. Cleaning up in general in a dangerous area subject to some riots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) It’s astonishing to me that you are simultaneously capable of forming full sentences and not seeing how useless and dumb that sentence sounds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -18 points 2 years ago (3 children) And yet it wasn't illegal. If it was he would have been found guilty. I said nothing of the intelligence of his plans, just what I remember of the facts. I remember he wasn't doing anything wrong, but was targeted by some shitstains who chased after an armed guy. That was ultimately the stupidest decision on the day. One of the shitstains was a felon with a gun, and the dead one was a sex offender. If I got some of the details wrong it's because I don't care enough to look it up because it's a decided case. Sounds a lot like FAFO to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not remember the very iconic picture of him in his blue gloves? At the very least he did have something. Usually when somebody is running from attackers they don't pick up the bucket of supplies they were using before running away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (5 children) You recall very incorrectly and should probably look up what really happened before you so confidently make incorrect statements. Ask yourself why he had zero cleaning equipment and instead only brought a loaded rifle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Alright. Go ahead. Bring your evidence, because I saw the pictures and video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 17 year old in possession of a firearm. Misdemeanor. There. One simple charge and you are wrong. You clearly aren't interested in truth, just your opinion on it. Have a good one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago 17 year olds are typically only restricted from handguns. Go ahead and point to the law that says he wasn't allowed to possess a long gun at that time. Maybe you should have been on the prosecution if you're so good. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Here's the picture everybody saw of him cleaning before the shooting. Obviously you have no memories of the actual situation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago He claimed he was hired to guard someone's dealership, and when the guy denied ever hiring him he tried to say "Actually it was my dad's dealership!" then when he was called on that lie he stopped bringing it up. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -21 points 2 years ago (12 children) Cleaning graffiti if I recall correctly. Cleaning up in general in a dangerous area subject to some riots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) It’s astonishing to me that you are simultaneously capable of forming full sentences and not seeing how useless and dumb that sentence sounds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -18 points 2 years ago (3 children) And yet it wasn't illegal. If it was he would have been found guilty. I said nothing of the intelligence of his plans, just what I remember of the facts. I remember he wasn't doing anything wrong, but was targeted by some shitstains who chased after an armed guy. That was ultimately the stupidest decision on the day. One of the shitstains was a felon with a gun, and the dead one was a sex offender. If I got some of the details wrong it's because I don't care enough to look it up because it's a decided case. Sounds a lot like FAFO to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not remember the very iconic picture of him in his blue gloves? At the very least he did have something. Usually when somebody is running from attackers they don't pick up the bucket of supplies they were using before running away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (5 children) You recall very incorrectly and should probably look up what really happened before you so confidently make incorrect statements. Ask yourself why he had zero cleaning equipment and instead only brought a loaded rifle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Alright. Go ahead. Bring your evidence, because I saw the pictures and video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 17 year old in possession of a firearm. Misdemeanor. There. One simple charge and you are wrong. You clearly aren't interested in truth, just your opinion on it. Have a good one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago 17 year olds are typically only restricted from handguns. Go ahead and point to the law that says he wasn't allowed to possess a long gun at that time. Maybe you should have been on the prosecution if you're so good. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Here's the picture everybody saw of him cleaning before the shooting. Obviously you have no memories of the actual situation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago He claimed he was hired to guard someone's dealership, and when the guy denied ever hiring him he tried to say "Actually it was my dad's dealership!" then when he was called on that lie he stopped bringing it up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) It’s astonishing to me that you are simultaneously capable of forming full sentences and not seeing how useless and dumb that sentence sounds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -18 points 2 years ago (3 children) And yet it wasn't illegal. If it was he would have been found guilty. I said nothing of the intelligence of his plans, just what I remember of the facts. I remember he wasn't doing anything wrong, but was targeted by some shitstains who chased after an armed guy. That was ultimately the stupidest decision on the day. One of the shitstains was a felon with a gun, and the dead one was a sex offender. If I got some of the details wrong it's because I don't care enough to look it up because it's a decided case. Sounds a lot like FAFO to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not remember the very iconic picture of him in his blue gloves? At the very least he did have something. Usually when somebody is running from attackers they don't pick up the bucket of supplies they were using before running away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -18 points 2 years ago (3 children) And yet it wasn't illegal. If it was he would have been found guilty. I said nothing of the intelligence of his plans, just what I remember of the facts. I remember he wasn't doing anything wrong, but was targeted by some shitstains who chased after an armed guy. That was ultimately the stupidest decision on the day. One of the shitstains was a felon with a gun, and the dead one was a sex offender. If I got some of the details wrong it's because I don't care enough to look it up because it's a decided case. Sounds a lot like FAFO to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not remember the very iconic picture of him in his blue gloves? At the very least he did have something. Usually when somebody is running from attackers they don't pick up the bucket of supplies they were using before running away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not remember the very iconic picture of him in his blue gloves? At the very least he did have something. Usually when somebody is running from attackers they don't pick up the bucket of supplies they were using before running away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not remember the very iconic picture of him in his blue gloves? At the very least he did have something. Usually when somebody is running from attackers they don't pick up the bucket of supplies they were using before running away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (5 children) You recall very incorrectly and should probably look up what really happened before you so confidently make incorrect statements. Ask yourself why he had zero cleaning equipment and instead only brought a loaded rifle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Alright. Go ahead. Bring your evidence, because I saw the pictures and video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 17 year old in possession of a firearm. Misdemeanor. There. One simple charge and you are wrong. You clearly aren't interested in truth, just your opinion on it. Have a good one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago 17 year olds are typically only restricted from handguns. Go ahead and point to the law that says he wasn't allowed to possess a long gun at that time. Maybe you should have been on the prosecution if you're so good. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Here's the picture everybody saw of him cleaning before the shooting. Obviously you have no memories of the actual situation. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Alright. Go ahead. Bring your evidence, because I saw the pictures and video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 17 year old in possession of a firearm. Misdemeanor. There. One simple charge and you are wrong. You clearly aren't interested in truth, just your opinion on it. Have a good one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago 17 year olds are typically only restricted from handguns. Go ahead and point to the law that says he wasn't allowed to possess a long gun at that time. Maybe you should have been on the prosecution if you're so good. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Here's the picture everybody saw of him cleaning before the shooting. Obviously you have no memories of the actual situation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 17 year old in possession of a firearm. Misdemeanor. There. One simple charge and you are wrong. You clearly aren't interested in truth, just your opinion on it. Have a good one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago 17 year olds are typically only restricted from handguns. Go ahead and point to the law that says he wasn't allowed to possess a long gun at that time. Maybe you should have been on the prosecution if you're so good. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago 17 year olds are typically only restricted from handguns. Go ahead and point to the law that says he wasn't allowed to possess a long gun at that time. Maybe you should have been on the prosecution if you're so good. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Here's the picture everybody saw of him cleaning before the shooting. Obviously you have no memories of the actual situation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Here's the picture everybody saw of him cleaning before the shooting. Obviously you have no memories of the actual situation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago He claimed he was hired to guard someone's dealership, and when the guy denied ever hiring him he tried to say "Actually it was my dad's dealership!" then when he was called on that lie he stopped bringing it up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (3 children) He was, but it's not self-defense if the only reason you are in that situation is because you created it. If I put myself and another person in some room that's rigged to lock and not unlock until the other person is dead.. Technically I am fighting for my life, but it's not self-defense because this wouldn't have happened if I didn't seek this out intentionally... And that's basically what Rittenhouse did waving that gun around permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Self-defense is a response to a threat from someone else, "putting yourself" into a situation doesn't change that. If that were true, we'd be free to blame victims of other crimes (e.g. cyclists and pedestrians hit by cars) for putting themselves into dangerous situations. But that's absolutely not the case, it's not my fault if a car hits me while I'm legally riding/walking on the side of the road, nor is it my fault that someone attacks me because I'm holding a firearm. That said, Rittenhouse was a minor and AFAICT not legally allowed to possess a firearm in that situation. That is the problem here, and anyone who enabled him to bring a firearm to that situation should be held at least partially accountable. But his actions in the moment were self-defense. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) The court disagrees. Just because somewhere is dangerous, doesn't mean you're not allowed to be there. If you want to go somewhere dangerous and you do not want to be at more risk, you bring protection. Don't fuck around if you don't want to find out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago It's not that he went that out all, it's that there was a boatload of evidence implying that killing was his motive for wanting to go in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Self-defense is a response to a threat from someone else, "putting yourself" into a situation doesn't change that. If that were true, we'd be free to blame victims of other crimes (e.g. cyclists and pedestrians hit by cars) for putting themselves into dangerous situations. But that's absolutely not the case, it's not my fault if a car hits me while I'm legally riding/walking on the side of the road, nor is it my fault that someone attacks me because I'm holding a firearm. That said, Rittenhouse was a minor and AFAICT not legally allowed to possess a firearm in that situation. That is the problem here, and anyone who enabled him to bring a firearm to that situation should be held at least partially accountable. But his actions in the moment were self-defense. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) The court disagrees. Just because somewhere is dangerous, doesn't mean you're not allowed to be there. If you want to go somewhere dangerous and you do not want to be at more risk, you bring protection. Don't fuck around if you don't want to find out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago It's not that he went that out all, it's that there was a boatload of evidence implying that killing was his motive for wanting to go in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago It's not that he went that out all, it's that there was a boatload of evidence implying that killing was his motive for wanting to go in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) HEY everyone, this guy ^^ was THERE THAT NIGHT! We should all RELY TO him with our detailed questions about the events that unfolded since he clearly knows and has witnessed the events and is therefore an unimpeachable source of objective truth on this subject! Why weren't you in the trial, out of curiosity? I'd have thought they'd be after your testimony, you know, since you know all this stuff and are really smart. Just wondering... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Dude. He was found not guilty. If there was evidence of him being there for no reason other than to kill somebody then I'm sure he would have been convicted. I remember fairly well that he retreated but got attacked by a guy trying to hit him in the head with a skateboard (weapon) and shooting the arm of a felon brandishing a handgun at him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm sure Kyle is glad you're out here white-knighting for him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago Whatever you say bro. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -9 points 2 years ago https://heavy.com/news/gaige-grosskreutz/ https://www.npr.org/2021/11/19/1057422329/why-legal-experts-were-not-surprised-by-the-rittenhouse-jurys-decision-to-acquit I didn't remember it perfectly, but certainly a lot that is ignored by those who hate Rittenhouse. I was mistaken when I said the guy with the handgun is a felon. He WAS a felon and seems like an all around piece of shit, but his felony was expunged so he was legally allowed to possess a firearm. He did have a loaded handgun in his hand when approaching Kyle though. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Dude. He was found not guilty. If there was evidence of him being there for no reason other than to kill somebody then I'm sure he would have been convicted. I remember fairly well that he retreated but got attacked by a guy trying to hit him in the head with a skateboard (weapon) and shooting the arm of a felon brandishing a handgun at him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm sure Kyle is glad you're out here white-knighting for him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago Whatever you say bro. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm sure Kyle is glad you're out here white-knighting for him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago Whatever you say bro. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago Whatever you say bro. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -9 points 2 years ago https://heavy.com/news/gaige-grosskreutz/ https://www.npr.org/2021/11/19/1057422329/why-legal-experts-were-not-surprised-by-the-rittenhouse-jurys-decision-to-acquit I didn't remember it perfectly, but certainly a lot that is ignored by those who hate Rittenhouse. I was mistaken when I said the guy with the handgun is a felon. He WAS a felon and seems like an all around piece of shit, but his felony was expunged so he was legally allowed to possess a firearm. He did have a loaded handgun in his hand when approaching Kyle though. permalink fedilink source parent
