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What factors do you think contributed to the "Reddit Hivemind"? How do you believe it can be avoided? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I've been seeing more often (and others have posted the same) that some of the elements of "Reddit etiquette" seem to be taking over here. Luckily I can still find discussion comments but it seems the jokes and general "downvote because I disagree" are slowly taking over.

So the question becomes is it the size or the functionality of the site? The people or popularity? What's your thoughts?

edit: should I change it to Lemmy-hivemind? Exhibit A: the amount of downvotes without a single explanation (guessing it's anything to do with Reddit being talked about).

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Moderation is a big part. Heavily libbed up mods such as the Lemmy.World ones are only allowing one perspective to be posted. Which is why the place is slowly turning into Reddit

This is done in three ways:

Restricting what content is allowed to be posted using made up metrics like MBFC or calling anything they don't like an opinion piece.
Allowing users to insult those with differing opinions EG call them Russian bots or Trump supporters and only banning users when they insult those trolls back.
.World/WorldNews style just banning anyone who doesn't have a Biden style Zionist worldview.

The centralization around .World is one of the biggest issues facing Lemmy right now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I had the same opinion. It's absolutely moderation that reduces the amount of acceptable opinion and behavior. I can't even have good faith discussions on controversial topics on multiple platforms because I am vaguely aware of what is considered the 'right' opinion.

A truly liberal mindset and healthy community would allow controversial opinions, but classic liberalism is demonized now in favor of absolutist values for conduct and morality.

So here's what happens. When a person says a controversial thing and they're banned, silenced, or shadow banned it reduces the amount of incidence for the offending opinion in that community, people who see the ban with the same opinion that want to participate in the community are left with choosing silence ( giving the impression that opinion was not common ) or additionally defending the person actioned against, which then also risks their removal from that community.

It's really that simple. Moderation in my opinion should only go after the real problematic illegal stuff, but we shouldn't be moderating out the actual good faith opinions that people have.

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